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Botox and fillers

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maddyone Sun 21-Apr-24 10:07:18

At least Botox and fillers can and do wear off after time. The worrying thing is that young women are having these enhancements earlier and earlier, and one wonders about the long term effects of these treatments.

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 21-Apr-24 10:04:42

Oh no! There’s an illusion shattered.

Kate1949 Sun 21-Apr-24 10:00:41

I've always thought what beautiful skin the author Marian Keyes has. She looks like a porcelain doll. I thought she was very lucky. She said on TV the other days that she has fillers and Botox!

Aveline Sun 21-Apr-24 09:58:43

dragonfly46. You can wash make up off.

dragonfly46 Sun 21-Apr-24 09:51:32

My daughter has a small amount of botox injected into her frown lines. She has inherited them from me and if I was younger I would have had it done. Apparently the beauty industry is now based more on enhancements than anything else.
I always think each to their own and try not to be judgemental. I remember going out with thick black lines on my eyelids and white lipstick - I thought I was the bees knees!

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 21-Apr-24 09:43:31

I remember seeing Lulu on tv a couple of years ago and her cheeks looked very lumpy. I guessed it was caused by fillers that had gone wrong/were breaking down. Saw her again recently and the problem appeared to have gone away - probably courtesy of more work.

TinSoldier Sun 21-Apr-24 09:41:41

Botulinum toxins are one of the most lethal substances known to man.

Scientific research has shown that botulinum toxin can pass through the blood-brain barrier.

Adverse events associated with botox include:

dysarthria (weakened speech muscles through damage to the brain),
dysphonia (inpaired voice production - the croakiness usually assocated with old age),
dysphagia (difficulty swallowing),
respiratory compromise,
generalized muscle weakness,
marked bilateral dysphagia (drooping eyelids),
bowel/bladder-related changes,
blood circulation-related changes,
gait-related changes, and neurological problems.

www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/botulism

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6261580/

WHO say that misdiagnosis of botulism sometimes occurs as it is often confused with stroke, Guillain-Barré syndrome, or myasthenia gravis.

One can only wonder and worry about how much future trouble these young women are storing up for themselves but having a lethal toxin, however dilute, regularly injected so close to their brains.

Derma fillers are less toxic, comprising hyaluronic acid which is naturally found in the body but they are still essentially excess carbs and sugars that have to be metabolised. I wonder if they are just as potential dangerous for women with diabetes as botox is.

1summer Sun 21-Apr-24 09:39:01

My niece was horrified when her 13 year old daughter came home from school asking if she should have lip fillers, she said lots of girls at her school has had them done. When I said I was astonished she said she knew lots of girls at the school have had the slug eyebrows (can’t think what they are really called) so wasn’t surprised about the fillers. What are the parents thinking.??
I don’t know anyone that has had fillers or Botox, my daughter hasn’t. But was reading last week of a “celebrity” who had cheek fillers that went lumpy and she had them removed now she has a permanent dent in her cheek. So it’s a no from me.

JaneJudge Sun 21-Apr-24 09:35:18

Aveline, don't be disappointed. It is so common now, almost expected. I find it sad though but you can get it done in hairdresser shops now fgs

I wonder if it is common amongst men?

Aveline Sun 21-Apr-24 09:33:25

I felt so stupid as I'd never suspected she'd do such a thing. I'm very disappointed in her. I thought there was more to her than how she looked. sad

RunaroundSue Sun 21-Apr-24 09:22:03

I watched a recent film starring Sandra Bullock. She was normally a beautiful lady but now she has had lip fillers and other treatments and she looks like a fish around her mouth.

I am 81 years old and from being 16 years of age I have used moisturising creams because my mum started to buy from an Avon lady in the late 1950's. I do not have any wrinkles at all and our sons say that I look 20 years younger and I have been taken for my eldest sons wife (he is 54 years old) and he wasn't very happy about it. My neck and chest looks like a 30 year olds, no turkey neck, just smooth skin.

MissInterpreted Sun 21-Apr-24 09:18:14

It's very common, unfortunately - as GSM says, so many young women seem to want that particular look now. Thankfully my daughter seems quite content to be herself and hasn't fallen into that trap. I'm quite surprised that you hadn't noticed she'd had any work done though.

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 21-Apr-24 09:16:44

It wouldn’t surprise me. So many seem to want a particular ‘look’. I don’t know what fillers do to the body as they break down. I don’t know your daughter’s age, and I don’t have a daughter, but my daughter in law, late 30s, doesn’t have any artificial enhancements other than a few highlights.

Aveline Sun 21-Apr-24 08:37:36

I was shocked recently when DD told me she had had Botox and fillers fairly regularly over the past few years. I couldn't believe it. It just feels so wrong to me that a beautiful young woman feels it necessary to pump her face full of toxins. Needless to say we argued and she told me that all women in her age group used them. Is this true? How can I have missed this?