34 year old assisted euthanasia

She was from The Netherlands, not the UK.

This just expresses what a dire state our society is in that we allow people to kill those suffering from mental illness?

Where is the care this girl needs for pity's sake?

Every life has value and should be valued regardless of how ill or healthy they are.

I just feel such sorrow reading stuff like this.

MissAdventure

Why should anyone get it done for them, if that's the case?

To ensure it's done properly, with no margin for mistakes, presumably?

Exactly.

That's the problem here, isn't it?
Getting someone else to take you to Switzerland, but proving it is your own choice, so that they don't get charged with killing you.

Not everyone could do it for themselves - for instance they may be paralysed or have no access to ‘the means’.

Why should anyone get it done for them, if that's the case?

To ensure it's done properly, with no margin for mistakes, presumably?

MissInterpreted

I read her story and found it very sad, but at the end of the day, what is the better option - assisted dying/euthanasia, or if she is desperate enough, leaving her to attempt suicide on her own? As pascal30 says, if someone is determined enough, they will find a way.

In a case like this, if she is determined enough to end her life then it’s her choice but I don’t see why others should do it for her.
What she needs is real help for her MH.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/boyfriend-woman-34-seeking-euthanasia-32678817

It's been in almost every newspaper, Bluebelle

Our young friend attempted suicide twice and was found before he died,taken to hospital to recover from injuries ,given counselling and sent home ...twice.He left the hospital the second time and took his life within half an hour.Nothing would have stopped him,he didn't want to be here,for reasons that were his own.

He was just 23 .
Should he have been locked away for "his own good"?What if even that didn't stop the pain that he needed to end.? Sadly we'll never know but in the end it was HIS decision and his alone ,we all miss him even 16 years on ,he knew he was much loved but it wasn't enough to save him.
He would have kept on trying and being brought back to face a life he didn't want,who are we to judge ?

But why did she feel the need to involve someone else?
(presumably a doctor or clinic) why not just do it there’s plenty of ways, people are committing suicide every day
How was someone helping her she sounds physically fit enough to take a bottle full of pills without any need of help
I think it’s a difficult one to insist on saving someone who doesn’t want to be saved but to be honest I ve never heard of anyone announcing their death pre it happening Most suicides are very secretive that’s why people are found in sheds, woods, empty areas

Is there a link I haven’t read anything about it ?

She wanted to end living but feared dying so not to face death alone she chose assistance

I am in favour of assisted dying if someone is terminally ill and in pain which cannot be sufficiently relieved. Or if they have a terrible incurable condition which gives them no quality of life, such as Tony Nicholls (?) who had locked in syndrome, was denied the chance to have his life ended and died shortly afterwards.

I don’t put this lady in the same category though I don’t deny the suffering her mental problems were causing her. I don’t understand why, if she didn’t want to carry on living, she couldn’t take matters into her own hands and not involve her boyfriend or the clinic, which was not a willing party. I know that sometimes suicide attempts go wrong and leave one badly physically damaged, but if a person is sufficiently determined they would ensure that the method and circumstances used would succeed.

It is due to be debated again in our parliament, im hoping with all the boxes ticked it will be legal here one day, preferably in my lifetime, !

Bridie22

Hurrying on the inevitable, is assisted death .

Yes, I suppose I meant having a more formal, legislated process.

If someone was in agonising, torturous physical pain that nothing could help, I think we'd find it easier to understand them just wanting it to end or be ended. Long-lasting mental anguish for which there is no remedy could affect a person the same way, I feel.

If this is the only way to end Jolanda's pain then so be it. Nature is cruel when all's said and done.

Thank you, Esmay.

As a Christian it goes against my beliefs , but I understand her deep unhappiness and respect her .

May she rest in peace 💐 .

Hurrying on the inevitable, is assisted death .

I've never been totally onboard about assisted euthanasia, though I'm in favour of "hurrying the inevitable" if necessary.

I realise it's all open to interpretation though.

It's legal there and she fits their criteria, so its all legal in that country.

I read her story and found it very sad, but at the end of the day, what is the better option - assisted dying/euthanasia, or if she is desperate enough, leaving her to attempt suicide on her own? As pascal30 says, if someone is determined enough, they will find a way.

Do you think the fact that she is from the Netherlands has any bearing on this?
It is legal there, I think, with the obvious safeguarding checks.

I suppose ultimately it could Miss A.

She has apparently found a psychiatrist, plus 2 other doctors,in the Netherlands who has agreed that she fits the criteria for assisted dying, having initially been denied it by the official clinic..
I suppose, having worked in MH for many years, that this method is preferable to an attempt at suicide, which could cause lasting physical damage, if someone is determined to die..

I can also see that point, too.
Does being "for" it, mean that it applies to anyone who feels life is too much?

It's a conundrum to me.