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Harry and Meghan ‘royal’ tour of Nigeria.

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Whethertomorrow Sun 28-Apr-24 22:44:36

No matter what the facts are this is going to be reported on as being an official royal tour. This tour will be fully publicised in the press and have a lot of coverage perhaps to the detriment of the rest of the royal family.

Comparisons could be made between ‘youthful’ and energetic H and M and the elderly ailing king and Catherine also ailing.

Surely this is a kick in the teeth to Charles and William. I think their titles need to be removed asap, as I don’t think that H and M will ever stop trading on the RF name that they no longer want to be associated with.

M0nica Wed 08-May-24 09:12:04

One could have a whole thread on why some people think it is 'funny' to do or say something that is humiliating and unpleasant about someone else.

....and all the people who enjoy reading about it and also find it funny.

Rosie51 Tue 07-May-24 22:47:40

It's awful isn't it, the way some think it's 'fun' to start a scurrilous rumour about innocent people, that then morphs into a repeated lie? I hold no brief for David Cameron, but the sordid tale of him and the pig's head is reported as a made up incident 'for fun' and how often is that still repeated?

Callistemon21 Tue 07-May-24 22:20:48

Glorianny

Germanshepherdsmum

Glorianny

The French and American press were full of the RH and William story. The British press were apparently told to stay away from it.

‘Apparently’? Where’s your evidence?

Weren't people saying they knew nothing about it?

In the past the Simpson/Edward affair was in the European papers and not the British.

Perhaps they knew nothing about it because there was nothing to know, it was fictional, made up by Giles Coren.

Hope it made him happy to cause such trouble; did he get paid too?

Anniebach Tue 07-May-24 21:32:28

Rock bottom and still drilling

Glorianny Tue 07-May-24 21:19:37

Germanshepherdsmum

Glorianny

The French and American press were full of the RH and William story. The British press were apparently told to stay away from it.

‘Apparently’? Where’s your evidence?

Weren't people saying they knew nothing about it?

In the past the Simpson/Edward affair was in the European papers and not the British.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 07-May-24 21:03:05

Glorianny

The French and American press were full of the RH and William story. The British press were apparently told to stay away from it.

‘Apparently’? Where’s your evidence?

RosiesMaw Tue 07-May-24 20:53:50

The speculation in the press about Rose Hanbury is just that press rumours and speculation, no different to the treatment you dislike meted out to Meghan. perhaps it wasn't well timed You and another poster were the ones saying he was likely off meeting his mistress that day, there had been no such press speculation
Blah, blah, blah.
Giles Coren has admitted he started this rumour about William and Rose Hanbury as a bit of a joke and there is no foundation to it.
Be that as it may to deliberately mudsling regarding the King Constantine memorial service was not only poorly timed, but deliberately vicious and “bearing false witness”. Even although you delight in denigrating the RF at every opportunity you must have been desperate to scrape the bottom of the barrel - this is a new low and I had thought better of you Glorianny

Glorianny Tue 07-May-24 20:43:34

The French and American press were full of the RH and William story. The British press were apparently told to stay away from it.

Iam64 Tue 07-May-24 20:24:01

Ok annie

Anniebach Tue 07-May-24 18:02:45

Sorry Iam I thought I had pasted the post I was referring to

Callistemon21 Tue 07-May-24 17:56:59

AGAA4

Harry chose to leave the Royal family. His decision and many wouldn't have criticised him for that but did he have to burn his bridges on his way out.

Yes, I agree.

Who can blame him for going to live overseas, leaving it all behind and forging a new and different future with his family.

But he couldn't seem to move on. ☹

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 07-May-24 17:54:29

I haven’t seen the rumours, other than on GN, and I also hope they are groundless. Iam is not someone who ever, in my experience, engages in mud slinging,

Iam64 Tue 07-May-24 17:51:06

I’m not mud slinging any more than others who referred to these rumours. I hope there’s no truth on them

Callistemon21 Tue 07-May-24 17:39:37

Oh, what have I missed?

Really shouldn't go gadding off out for lunch!!

Anniebach Tue 07-May-24 17:03:03

Back to mud slinging?

Iam64 Tue 07-May-24 16:58:24

I’ve seen references to the alleged affair on line and one mag showed photographs of Catherine turning away from “her former friend”. I can’t recall which colour mag sorry
I’ve always hoped not true - imo Catherine is a real boost to the RF . Hard worker, a people’s person living under a spot light most of us would run a mile from
Let’s hope she and W are tight together

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 07-May-24 16:40:53

I remember the ‘banter’. It was very unpleasant even though we didn’t know of Catherine’s cancer diagnosis then. To suggest that William would fail to attend his Godfather’s memorial service, where he was due to give a reading, was a particularly nasty bit of sordid speculation.

AGAA4 Tue 07-May-24 16:40:12

Rose Hanbury has used her lawyers to deny the affair with William. Rumours can start from nothing and grow and cause misery for others.
I hope for Kate's sake that they are false.

Rosie51 Tue 07-May-24 16:30:52

Daddima no I've never read anything myself, but I have seen references on the internet to it being asserted in the gutter press. I think it's likely a load of made-up rubbish. They are close friends, and the gutter press do like sordid speculation stories. The banter that day between Glorianny and the other poster was that "like father, like son" William would be an adulterer, happy to leave his convalescing wife, miss his Godfather's memorial service, and all to enjoy sex with his mistress.

Daddima Tue 07-May-24 16:05:48

* Rosie51*, has there ever been anything in ‘the press’ about Rose Hanbury? Isn’t that just something trotted out on the internet?
I’m not doubting you, I just haven’t seen anything.

Rosie51 Tue 07-May-24 15:50:46

Glorianny

Rosie51

Oh Glorianny how short is your memory? I've seen posts from you with regards to William and Catherine denigrating her personal achievements,, musing that William missed the memorial service for King Constantine because he was likely visiting his mistress when in fact he'd just had the devastating news of Catherine's cancer, saying that Catherine was determined to get William, accusing her of being a Stepford wife and so much more........ hardly the milk of human kindness in my opinion.

So I have but is reporting things that are in the press the same as wishing things on someone?
I've never denigrated her personal achievements ( I'm not even sure what they are) if you have evidence of this please post it.
The strange and complicated process Catherine went through as a university career is well documented perhaps it wasn't to meet William but it certainly looks as if it was.
The Stepford wife comment is I think valid about many women in the RF.
As for the comment perhaps it wasn't well timed but William's relationship with Rose Hanbury has always been openly talked about and I had no idea about the cancer diagnosis then .
I am extremely sorry for a young woman who has had to lead such a public life and have such an awful diagnosis. Since it was revealed I have never made any further comments about her.

The speculation in the press about Rose Hanbury is just that press rumours and speculation, no different to the treatment you dislike meted out to Meghan. perhaps it wasn't well timed You and another poster were the ones saying he was likely off meeting his mistress that day, there had been no such press speculation. In any event it was known Catherine was recovering from major surgery, and King Constantine was William's godfather, so your speculation was nasty not just ill timed.

You have criticised her photography of her children etc and took exception to her being praised for it in the press. Her interest in her charities is every bit as valid as anyone else's.

Stepford wife (derogatory) A woman who unquestioningly submits to and serves her male partner, and/or does not seem to have interests, wishes, or pursuits of her own.

That's some insult, remember it comes from a plot where the wives were replaced by androids.

I am extremely sorry for a young woman who has had to lead such a public life and have such an awful diagnosis. Since it was revealed I have never made any further comments about her. just a shame she had to contract this awful disease to escape your criticisms and put downs.

Glorianny Tue 07-May-24 15:28:45

Rosie51

Oh Glorianny how short is your memory? I've seen posts from you with regards to William and Catherine denigrating her personal achievements,, musing that William missed the memorial service for King Constantine because he was likely visiting his mistress when in fact he'd just had the devastating news of Catherine's cancer, saying that Catherine was determined to get William, accusing her of being a Stepford wife and so much more........ hardly the milk of human kindness in my opinion.

So I have but is reporting things that are in the press the same as wishing things on someone?
I've never denigrated her personal achievements ( I'm not even sure what they are) if you have evidence of this please post it.
The strange and complicated process Catherine went through as a university career is well documented perhaps it wasn't to meet William but it certainly looks as if it was.
The Stepford wife comment is I think valid about many women in the RF.
As for the comment perhaps it wasn't well timed but William's relationship with Rose Hanbury has always been openly talked about and I had no idea about the cancer diagnosis then .
I am extremely sorry for a young woman who has had to lead such a public life and have such an awful diagnosis. Since it was revealed I have never made any further comments about her.

PuddyCat Tue 07-May-24 15:28:04

Well all is not forgiven or forgotten in the Big House. Prince Harry will not see King Charles during his visit to London for an event marking a decade of the Invictus Games.

A spokesman for the Duke of Sussex said this was due to his father's "full programme" and that he "hopes to see him soon". His brother, Prince William, the Prince of Wales, will also not be at the service for the Invictus games, which will be held at St Paul's Cathedral in London on Wednesday.

What a mess Harry has made of it all. I wonder if, deep down, he regrets any of it?

Smileless2012 Tue 07-May-24 15:23:22

Your recollection is correct Daddima and she suggested they take a year out before making their final decision, which is what they did.

Daddima Tue 07-May-24 15:14:31

AGAA4

Harry chose to leave the Royal family. His decision and many wouldn't have criticised him for that but did he have to burn his bridges on his way out.

Do I remember things differently from others? My recollection is that H&M wanted to remain as ‘part-time’ royals, who could follow other paths ( maybe like Netflix or similar), but still carry out some royal duties, and it was Queen Elizabeth who ( quite rightly, in my opinion) told them they had to be all in or all out.
I do wonder if that’s what is behind their antagonism towards ‘ The Firm’.