Prince Harry will not meet the King during UK visit.

The Bible does say about forgiving 77 times or something.

If a person says sorry, [and means it]forgive.
If a person then does wrong again, and says sorry and means it, forgive again, etc.

Joseann

Now, I'm a very visual person, so forgive me if, scanning a few photos today, I notice a guard of honour receiving Harry - like for royalty or for a Head of State??
And then he went somewhere else, 100 miles away, and was sat on a throne??

Blimey!

maddyone

I was brought up a Methodist and attended church and junior church every Sunday morning and Sunday School on Sunday afternoon. I fully understood the message of forgiveness in the parable but nonetheless I do struggle with the idea of forgiveness when someone truly wrongs you and shows no remorse. We are supposed to turn the other cheek but this is truly difficult when you feel the person who wronged you continues to wrong you and has no remorse. I’m thinking here in particular of my own sister sadly.

Personally, I dont think we are supposed to forgive, in such circumstances.

Accept maybe, but forgiveness i fors after the person doing wrong behaviour, has apologised.

Then I love this photo of William drooling over pasties in Cornwall yesterday!

Good grief. That will go down with the wife.

Now, I'm a very visual person, so forgive me if, scanning a few photos today, I notice a guard of honour receiving Harry - like for royalty or for a Head of State??
And then he went somewhere else, 100 miles away, and was sat on a throne??

I don’t think you’re suggesting the estrangement threads are full of lies Annie?

But Maddyone which makes you feel better, forgiving or holding on to anger, resentment etc. God is wiser than us.

I don’t read the estrangement threads. I find lies very distressing, people have faced the death penalty because of lies.

Estrangement is always multi layered and painful for everyone. People are quick to judge and ‘take sides’ as is often shown on gransnet estrangement threads. The royal family is ever present in the life of our country, whatever our personal feelings about a monarchy.
Our generation watched the way Charles and his siblings grew up, the car crash that was his first marriage then the tragedy of Diana’s death. The sight of her sons walking behind her coffin is something that is hard to forget.
I can’t find it in my heart to judge, condemn or reject the key people involved in this tragic estrangement.

More and more they do not seem very nice people

It seems to me that Harry and Meghan have shown no remorse for the hurt they have caused to Harry’s family, and also to Meghan’s family, and so these wronged family members probably feel that forgiveness is too difficult for them.

I was brought up a Methodist and attended church and junior church every Sunday morning and Sunday School on Sunday afternoon. I fully understood the message of forgiveness in the parable but nonetheless I do struggle with the idea of forgiveness when someone truly wrongs you and shows no remorse. We are supposed to turn the other cheek but this is truly difficult when you feel the person who wronged you continues to wrong you and has no remorse. I’m thinking here in particular of my own sister sadly.

I do know.
It's a parable, a metaphor .............

The prodigal son is mankind. The father is God. The parable is about God's love for us, His children. It isn't and was never intended to be about a father and his son and has no relevance to Charles and Harry.

Strange reading, doesn’t relate to the reason for the service

But the Prodigal son was repentant and accepted he hed 'sinned' and was content to take a lowly job on his father's farm.

He said 'I will set out and go back to my father and say to him 'Father I have sinned against heaven and against you'. I am no longer worthy to be called your son. Make me like one of your hired servants' Only then did his father reach out to him.

Any sign that Prince Harry is really sorry about everything he has said and done? Really sorry, not just regretting what he did because it was a bad move and has done him no good, but truly sorry that he has so deeply hurt his father and brother and their spouses?

No, I have not seen any either.

The message I took from the prodigal son was that sinners who returned to the fold would be welcomed, loved and cared for

Yes, this.

Callistemon21

I had a C of E upbringing too and believe in forgiveness (although that does have a limit) but you can see who is obviously the favourite in the story of the Prodigal Son and it's not the dutiful child.

No.

The other son already had everything.
He never got lost.

The first son got lost and then was found[asked for forgiveness]

Then the father[d] said to him, ‘Son, you are always with me, and all that is mine is yours. 32 But we had to celebrate and rejoice, because this brother of yours was dead and has come to life; he was lost and has been found

Iam64

I had a traditional C of E upbringing. The parables were important at Sunday school. The message I took from the prodigal son was that sinners who returned to the fold would be welcomed, loved and cared for

That is the message in our Church as well.

Perhaps the King and Harry may prayerfully work out a solution, if they choose.

RosiesMaw

eazybee

Completely irrelevant, but it came as a shock some years ago listening to a sermon to realise I was actually the foolish virgin who would not have had oil in my lamp (or petrol in my car) ready for an emergency because I had been out partying .

Foolish “virgin”,?

Well that’s something at least! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Well, yes.

Far better than foolishly losing your virginity when out partying 😂

eazybee

Completely irrelevant, but it came as a shock some years ago listening to a sermon to realise I was actually the foolish virgin who would not have had oil in my lamp (or petrol in my car) ready for an emergency because I had been out partying .

Foolish “virgin”,?

Well that’s something at least! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

I had a C of E upbringing too and believe in forgiveness (although that does have a limit) but you can see who is obviously the favourite in the story of the Prodigal Son and it's not the dutiful child.

I had a traditional C of E upbringing. The parables were important at Sunday school. The message I took from the prodigal son was that sinners who returned to the fold would be welcomed, loved and cared for

Completely irrelevant, but it came as a shock some years ago listening to a sermon to realise I was actually the foolish virgin who would not have had oil in my lamp (or petrol in my car) ready for an emergency because I had been out partying .