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Prince Harry will not meet the King during UK visit.

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Urmstongran Tue 07-May-24 14:16:27

Seems a bit harsh? All that way too. He landed in the UK a few hours ago. Without Meghan and the children.

From the Telegraph just now:

“ The Duke of Sussex will not meet the King this week, the Telegraph can reveal.

Prince Harry, 39, landed in London on Tuesday morning and had made no secret of his hopes to see his father during his visit.

But a spokesperson for the Duke said: “In response to the many inquiries and continued speculation on whether or not The Duke will meet with his father while in the UK this week, it unfortunately will not be possible due to His Majesty’s full programme.

“The Duke of course is understanding of his father’s diary of commitments and various other priorities and hopes to see him soon.”

I just think if the King doesn't ’find time’ to see his son then Harry might well just think ‘sod it’ next time/if he comes over.

I know Harry bad mouthed the family in his book ‘Spare’ but still …

What do you think?

Callistemon21 Fri 10-May-24 18:01:34

RosiesMaw

Likewise! In the same way I identified with Martha over Mary, seeing as I, a wife, did all the humdrum boring housewiely things while “ himself” got to do the socialising, hosting etc.

I still maintain that Jesus would have been less than chuffed if Martha had not made her famous shortbread biscuits for J and his disciple buddies to enjoy.

😁

It's an odd message, isn't it

The fatted calf for the prodigal son or daughter, beans on toast for the drudge.

Squiffy Fri 10-May-24 17:59:20

Careful Maw! ⚡️⚡️⚡️😆

Dickens Fri 10-May-24 17:56:08

RosiesMaw

Likewise! In the same way I identified with Martha over Mary, seeing as I, a wife, did all the humdrum boring housewiely things while “ himself” got to do the socialising, hosting etc.

I still maintain that Jesus would have been less than chuffed if Martha had not made her famous shortbread biscuits for J and his disciple buddies to enjoy.

grin grin

RosiesMaw Fri 10-May-24 17:40:59

Likewise! In the same way I identified with Martha over Mary, seeing as I, a wife, did all the humdrum boring housewiely things while “ himself” got to do the socialising, hosting etc.

I still maintain that Jesus would have been less than chuffed if Martha had not made her famous shortbread biscuits for J and his disciple buddies to enjoy.

Sparklefizz Fri 10-May-24 17:15:17

Callistemon21

Calendargirl

Well, I always felt sorry for the brother who had stayed at home working, then was sidelined when the prodigal returned.

I realise that makes me not very nice.

blush

Yes, so did I, even when I was a child.
It made me very indignant and quite confused that someone could behave so badly yet be so enthusiastically received back into the fold yet the dutiful stay at home son got overlooked.

Me too.

Callistemon21 Fri 10-May-24 16:43:30

Glorianny

As far as the RF is concerned wasn't Harry there as founder and patron of Invictus and not as a member of RF.
Apparently Birmingham want to have Invictus in 2027 wouldn't it have been nice to see a concerted effort of the RF and government to throw their support behind this?

Mrs Sunak somehow reminds me of that poem about wearing a purple coat and a red hat that doesn't go.

I think anyone and everyone who was important as far as the Ivictus Games are concerned was there at the service. The Spencers were probably invited as Harry's family support.

Having a member of the Royal Family there, other than Harry, would have altered the whole point of the service and put the
emphasis on the Royal Family instead of the Games and on its founder, Prince Harry.

The PM wasn't there but his wife was, Johnny Mercer, Mark Dyer and representatives from the sporting world too.
Perhaps Zara Tindall might have wanted to attend? but she had another engagement anyway.

I think the right note was struck.

Joseann Fri 10-May-24 16:37:16

*with

Joseann Fri 10-May-24 16:36:54

Me too. I just didn't get it. And something similar eith David and Jonathan if I remember. I think therethe father disliked the one who was to become King though?

Callistemon21 Fri 10-May-24 16:34:22

Calendargirl

Well, I always felt sorry for the brother who had stayed at home working, then was sidelined when the prodigal returned.

I realise that makes me not very nice.

blush

Yes, so did I, even when I was a child.
It made me very indignant and quite confused that someone could behave so badly yet be so enthusiastically received back into the fold yet the dutiful stay at home son got overlooked.

Joseann Fri 10-May-24 16:30:52

Glorianny

The picture I was referring to is he one posted earlier on this thread of the green coat with the ochre hat.
It's nothing to do with purple or red really. Just a hat that doesn't go.
Sorry for presenting my musings. I should know they are always controversial.
The hat in the last picture looks good. And any colours can be put together. Oh and it isn't really to do with age now is it. It's about age in the future.

Oops I forgot the quote.

Joseann Fri 10-May-24 16:29:57

Just to clarify, the jade green coat with the ochre hat was worn by Mrs. Sunak on a September Sunday in Balmoral. The green headband was worn on a sunny May day in London. Appropriate attire for both occasions, though yes, the headband is nicer.
I rather like red and purple. Nobody wore it better than this!

Anniebach Fri 10-May-24 16:14:08

Glorianny. So you believe Harry is lost ?

Callistemon21 Fri 10-May-24 16:13:42

Glorianny

Anniebach

Glorianny the hat is red, no mention of a coat

No but purple is mentioned
When I am an old woman I shall wear purple
With a red hat which doesn’t go, and doesn’t suit me
I always imagine a purple coat.

Yeah, well, she's probably not as old as you, she's 44. I could be wrong of course, often am.
So she didn't have to wear purple.

Callistemon21 Fri 10-May-24 16:11:12

Glorianny

We have no idea what Harry said to his father when they met up. Perhaps he did apologise. However isn't the apology unnecessary really? When the older brother protests about the welcome his brother is given the father doesn't say "Well he's apologised". He says "Your brother was lost and is found."
The church may emphasise the importance of repentance. The story doesn't.

Did you read Dickens's post?

Calendargirl Fri 10-May-24 16:07:43

Well, I always felt sorry for the brother who had stayed at home working, then was sidelined when the prodigal returned.

I realise that makes me not very nice.

blush

Glorianny Fri 10-May-24 15:48:50

We have no idea what Harry said to his father when they met up. Perhaps he did apologise. However isn't the apology unnecessary really? When the older brother protests about the welcome his brother is given the father doesn't say "Well he's apologised". He says "Your brother was lost and is found."
The church may emphasise the importance of repentance. The story doesn't.

Anniebach Fri 10-May-24 15:25:19

Dickens so sorry you have suffered cancer twice. The media
isn’t known for moral gestures .

Who can recall the digs about the late Queen and Lord Porchester her racing manager for many years , I don’t watch the Crown but I did read an affair was hinted at in this. I

Norah Fri 10-May-24 14:12:27

Smileless2012

The parable doesn't fit in this instance Norah but it appears for some, to be a convenient stick to beat Charles.

The fact that the returning son accepts what he has done is wrong, asks for his father's forgiveness and has no expectations of being received as his son, but is willing to return to his father's home as a servant appears to be conveniently overlooked when comparing H to the prodigal.

Thank you.
Our parents sent us to Catholic school to work out our faith.. the remainder of these 'interesting' posts ... I'm still working out. smile

Dickens Fri 10-May-24 14:09:43

Anniebach

Dickens I definitely agree re the media, I have said often it
wants broken marriages, affairs etc, William must be so boring
.harry is doing the same as his mother did.

Having had cancer treatment twice (I don't do things by halves!) and experienced it in the peace and quiet of anonymity with no intrusive questions being asked and only my family 'watching' me, I feel it would be a really nice moral gesture if the media (some of it) put an embargo on itself and left both Charles and Catherine and the family to enjoy the same privilege.

Notwithstanding that I'm a torn Monarchist / Republican, I do feel sympathy for the very public profiles these two endure which means they have to consider their 'public' face when they might well just want to curl up on the sofa and be damned with everything else.

The intrusiveness of all these articles etc churning over the Harry / Charles situation is just one more thing to endure. Constantly.

Harry has now departed and is I believe in Nigeria already. I hope the media can resist epilogues and further analysis.

Anniebach Fri 10-May-24 13:42:17

Dickens I definitely agree re the media, I have said often it
wants broken marriages, affairs etc, William must be so boring
.harry is doing the same as his mother did.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 10-May-24 13:38:06

👍🏻 from me too.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 10-May-24 13:34:36

Glorianny 👍🏻

Glorianny Fri 10-May-24 13:33:55

Oh apologies they are only there to promote and encourage the involvement of Nigeria in the games and visit injured servicemen. I fully acknowledge any mistakes.

Dickens Fri 10-May-24 13:29:38

Anniebach

Dickens Harry announced his father was too busy to see him,
hence the media went with this, we don’t know if there were questions about visiting his father. He has brought much on himself because he talks much about himself

Dickens Harry announced his father was too busy to see him, hence the media went with this, we don’t know if there were questions about visiting his father. He has brought much on himself because he talks much about himself

I'm not disputing Harry's past behaviour Anniebach - do I need to keep reiterating it? To use a well-known phrase, washing your dirty linen in public, giving intimate details about family members' alleged deeds - particularly in this case where 'the family' cannot respond - is crass.

The point I am making is that certain parts of the media are loving this circus. It's meat and drink to them.

The RF read the press - do individuals like Burrell and other royal 'experts' / busy bodies, who contribute to the endless editorials which speculate about them and Harry, ever consider how they, the RF, feel when they see yet another article dissecting the whole family saga?

... we don’t know if there were questions about visiting his father...

According to the BBC, Harry's press agent received 'enquiries' about his plans to visit his father. Of course, the BBC could be telling lies, and no part of the media made any enquiries whatsoever. I tend to believe that they probably did - that is why high-profile people have press agents - to field all the 'enquiries' about this, that and the other. And considering it's a question that a huge amount of people appear to care about, why would the media not ask it?

I'm very aware that the villain in this family rupture is Harry, but please let's not pretend that some parts of the media are not exploiting the situation in order to sell. The bigger the readership, the more advertising revenue the paper attracts.

NotSpaghetti Fri 10-May-24 13:14:23

I like reds with purples. Not always but often.