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Do politicians need sex appeal to be successful in these social media times?

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Whethertomorrow Fri 24-May-24 19:54:03

I was wondering (again) if politicians in these modern times need a certain sex appeal in order to be noticeable or taken to be trustworthy.

I know past male prime ministers have not always been an oil painting eg Harold Wilson or Winston Churchill but then they were not photographed as much with the limitations of paper newspapers etc.

Were David Cameron or Tony Blair successful because they were youngish and handsome. They had that little twinkle in the eyes that people might have found appealing. Compare to Michael Foot and his shambling appearance and his lack of success.

Keir Starmer, to my mind, looks boring and stolid and not the dynamic leader we need to get us out of this rut we are in.

Do you think a physical image is more important than policies these days? Love to hear your thoughts.

Joseann Sat 25-May-24 12:33:20

French politicians have a habit of unbuttoning their pristine white shirts!

Callistemon21 Sat 25-May-24 12:36:15

Not in a suit, but was this him?

Joseann Sat 25-May-24 12:37:51

Who's that? Looks very young.

MissAdventure Sat 25-May-24 12:41:57

That's the very fella, Joseann blush
Isn't he lovely?

MissAdventure Sat 25-May-24 12:44:07

Too young and pasty, Calli.
We'll get told off soon, I bet, for this.

Joseann Sat 25-May-24 12:44:24

très beau!

Joseann Sat 25-May-24 12:44:53

I mean the French man!

Callistemon21 Sat 25-May-24 12:47:38

Joseann

Who's that? Looks very young.

Justin Trudeau 🙂

Joseann Sat 25-May-24 13:06:20

Silly me! 😆

Glorianny Sat 25-May-24 13:08:48

Callistemon21

Glorianny

Callistemon21

Sparklefizz

Margaret Thatcher was one of the most manufactured politicians ever. Her hair was lightened

Good grief! I'm speechless. Can't a woman have her hair coloured/lightened? That would rule out nearly every woman in politics.

🤣🤣🤣

A warning to any woman - "Do not dye your hair, ask for style advice or try to speak proper!"

Sorry Callistemon21 I don't object to any woman changing herself. But the changes in MT were not of her choosing. She was very much manipulated by men.
The "speaking proper" which was actually deliberate lowering of her voice after opinion polls was something that she denied. But there is evidence.
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p079k6gg

That was a good idea.

I often hear women reporters on TV and have to mute the TV because the pitch, not the volume, of their voices actually hurts my ears.

A lower, more modulated voice is more pleasant to listen to. A high-pitched sound is off-putting.

Oh it was a good idea. But it wasn't hers.
There is some research showing that in meetings male voices being lower get listened to more than the higher pitched women's. But what is interesting as well is that women's voices have become much lower in the last 50 years. In fact the March of the Women written by Ethel Smythe for the suffragettes is too high for most women now.

Glorianny Sat 25-May-24 13:10:21

Wyllow3

I googled "good looking MP"
and got this

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/gallery-uks-top-ten-sexiest-1082409

Those are all women!!! Where are the men?
There must be one surely????

HousePlantQueen Sat 25-May-24 13:11:58

maddyone

I really liked Tony Benn. He would have made a great PM.

Yes, I think it is because he had sincerity of his beliefs. My late Father, a true blue Tory (of the old school) admired Tony Benn because he would not be swayed from his beliefs, even if they made him unpopular.

Glorianny Sat 25-May-24 13:14:40

Apparently Rishi is sexier than Keir! www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8969595/Britains-SEXIEST-MPs-revealed-Dishi-Rishi-Sunak-beats-Keir-Starmer-crowned-hottest-male.html
Tobias Ellwood seems to be the best we can do.

HousePlantQueen Sat 25-May-24 13:16:17

Curtaintwitcher

Not sex appeal, no, but a strong personality helps. Nick Clegg is very handsome but not attractive as he comes over as weak and pathetic.
I think Richard Tice is extremely attractive and has charm too, plus I like his politics. Guess who I'll be voting for!

I find Tice repellent, and not just his politics! He was once described as looking like the kind of man who would charm a widow out of her life savings, and that description has stuck with me.

MissAdventure Sat 25-May-24 13:40:27

I usually like the darker looking men, but Rishi - nope!!!!!

Primrose53 Sat 25-May-24 14:55:25

MissAdventure

I usually like the darker looking men, but Rishi - nope!!!!!

Careful 😉

MissAdventure Sat 25-May-24 14:56:15

Careful of what?

Callistemon21 Sat 25-May-24 15:20:12

Glorianny

Wyllow3

I googled "good looking MP"
and got this

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/gallery-uks-top-ten-sexiest-1082409

Those are all women!!! Where are the men?
There must be one surely????

We're struggling to find any 😀

MissAdventure Sat 25-May-24 15:25:07

Perhaps Boris has charisma?'
I wouldn't call him a looker, so there must be something.

Callistemon21 Sat 25-May-24 15:26:08

Glorianny

Callistemon21

Glorianny

Callistemon21

Sparklefizz

Margaret Thatcher was one of the most manufactured politicians ever. Her hair was lightened

Good grief! I'm speechless. Can't a woman have her hair coloured/lightened? That would rule out nearly every woman in politics.

🤣🤣🤣

A warning to any woman - "Do not dye your hair, ask for style advice or try to speak proper!"

Sorry Callistemon21 I don't object to any woman changing herself. But the changes in MT were not of her choosing. She was very much manipulated by men.
The "speaking proper" which was actually deliberate lowering of her voice after opinion polls was something that she denied. But there is evidence.
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p079k6gg

That was a good idea.

I often hear women reporters on TV and have to mute the TV because the pitch, not the volume, of their voices actually hurts my ears.

A lower, more modulated voice is more pleasant to listen to. A high-pitched sound is off-putting.

Oh it was a good idea. But it wasn't hers.
There is some research showing that in meetings male voices being lower get listened to more than the higher pitched women's. But what is interesting as well is that women's voices have become much lower in the last 50 years. In fact the March of the Women written by Ethel Smythe for the suffragettes is too high for most women now.

The late Queen had a very high voice- remember her speech on her 21st birthday? It became lower and less 'terribly posh' over the years.

Callistemon21 Sat 25-May-24 15:26:46

MissAdventure

Perhaps Boris has charisma?'
I wouldn't call him a looker, so there must be something.

Oh got, I just can't imagine it ....

Callistemon21 Sat 25-May-24 15:27:13

gosh, not got !

MissAdventure Sat 25-May-24 15:28:14

Who was the guy years ago that married one of the Cheeky Girls? grin

Callistemon21 Sat 25-May-24 15:30:43

Lembit Opik?

Calendargirl Sat 25-May-24 15:33:15

Boris was quite attractive in his younger days.

Sadly, like so many of us, the weight has piled on as he got older.

Still, his wife doesn’t seem to mind and three children later….

He must still have something.