Missing lad in Tenerife, Jay Slater

It just seems odder and odder to me. I can’t imagine he could have walked very far yet sniffer dogs haven’t picked up his scent.
There’s been a widespread search to no avail.
I wonder if he’s even still on the island?

I think so too.

Well obviously we don't know what happened but in any disappearance case you have to ask: "When did the trouble start?"

In my opinion the men Jay was staying with should have offered him a ride. They should have offered to charge his phone. Given him a bottle of water..

But I was just wondering why they took him home in the first place. Maybe we will never know

I don’t really understand your point comrade?

So his community order is in place until February 2025. As far as I can tell, this counts as unspent:

www.gov.uk/tell-employer-or-college-about-criminal-record/community-service

Upon further research, it looks like this shouldn't prevent entry into Spain, although a certificate from Lancashire Police would have been required by the Guardia when considering his entry (at the airport).

Another thing I was wondering is what kind of club is the PapaGayo where he was seen late Sunday? This review mentions "a lot of gay people":

www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g562820-d3499139-r434406033-Papagayo_Tenerife-Playa_de_las_Americas_Arona_Tenerife_Canary_Islands.html

It also appears on a couple of lists of "best LGBTQIA+ friendly bars in Tenerife". I don't mean to be insensitive but is it an LGBTQ club? That could explain him going home with two middle-aged gentlemen.

It's always without exception the ones who lecture on how to behave who are the absolute creeps.

Unpleasant.

Seems the grandpa with a plan also has an agenda.

Thanks GSM my iPhone wouldn’t let me report so it’s good to know the mods will be alerted

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Jaxjacky

On a practical note, what exactly is the Gofundme page for?
His friends, staying out there until there's ‘news’ , do they not have jobs to go back to?
The Queen song was written for LiveAid referencing poverty in Africa.

The GoFundMe is "To get Jay Slater Home" it was created by his friend Lucy Mae and the beneficiary is Jay's mother. No money has been withdrawn.

petra

comrade

If he has a part-spent criminal conviction, how did Spanish border police let him enter the country?

He was sentenced to 180 hrs community work in 2021 I think the sentence is spent.

Jay Slater received an 18 month community order, 25 rehabilitation activity days, 150 hours unpaid work on 4th Aug 2023.
www.lancs.live/news/lancashire-news/abandoned-paper-mill-100-kids-27461303

Tom Hilton also has a criminal record.

www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/23418065.rishton-teen-jailed-stealing-car-taking-police-70mph-chase/

GrannyGravy13

I think Jay Slater is more than capable of taking care of himself.

The X accounts of his friends make interesting reading.

He has a conviction along with four friends for attacking a 17 year old boy with a machete, axe and golf club. The victim had his skull split.

The full story is not what you expect. Have a read.
www.lancs.live/news/lancashire-news/abandoned-paper-mill-100-kids-27461303

www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/23418065.rishton-teen-jailed-stealing-car-taking-police-70mph-chase/

karmalady

There has been a lot of background information on MN, about a court case when a 17 year old teen was chased by a terrifying mob of thugs, a machete was used to split victim`s skull, smirking in court and also just giving etc.

Do the research, it's easy enough. I live 10 minutes from where this happened.
www.lancs.live/news/lancashire-news/abandoned-paper-mill-100-kids-27461303

On a practical note, what exactly is the Gofundme page for?
His friends, staying out there until there's ‘news’ , do they not have jobs to go back to?
The Queen song was written for LiveAid referencing poverty in Africa.

comrade

If he has a part-spent criminal conviction, how did Spanish border police let him enter the country?

He was sentenced to 180 hrs community work in 2021 I think the sentence is spent.

I don't know too much about this story tbh, but I am remembering the media storms surrounding Maddie McCann, Shannon Matthews and more recently Nicola Bully.
There has always been bad mouthing and gossip driven speculation not to say wacky conspiracy theories shared by saddoes whose lives lack and real excitement.
As with all the above and with Michael Moseley, there are real people involved in this- family, friends and possibly those who know more than they are letting on. Let's leave the armchair speculation alone and let people whose job it is to find stuff out, get on with their work.

This is interesting....I've learned a lot just from reading your posts. This is more than just your usual missing person.

It does seem unlikely that someone would set off on a 10 hour walk in unknown territory. The suggestion is possibly that he wanted to 'disappear' so he could make a fresh start somewhere? If he has a criminal record, this could well be the case.

Gran Wi'a Plan - more power to your elbow. Totally agree with your posts.It's great that governments /those in power can't con us any more because of social media.but the downsides are huge. I hope they get Jay back alive, but how many youngsters drown in the channel / mediterranean / killed in Gaza everyday without a mention, let alone £30k + being raised from strangers in their name. Charity was the model in Victorian times, it was overtaken by entitlement (benefits / social contract) 100- 70 years ago, now we're back to charity model again,only those on the recieving end, rather than saying " I don't need your charity" even if they obviously did, are seeing themselves as clever by getting as much as possible via the charity route for their sob story.

Yes, I think there’s more to this, hope he’s ok, time w tell

If he has a part-spent criminal conviction, how did Spanish border police let him enter the country?

Maybe lack of common sense it does seem the two guys that left early may know more perhaps more buildings and cars should be searched who knows as time goes on it doesn't look good do any of you think it could be a revenge attack ??

Brian May and Freddie Mercury summed it up so poignantly.
Even just reading the words brings a tear to my eyes.
What have I left for my children, grandchildren, and great grandchild any day now.

Just look at all those hungry mouths we have to feed
Take a look at all the suffering we breed
So many lonely faces scattered all around
Searching for what they need

Is this the world we created?
What did we do it for?
Is this the world we invaded
Against the law?
So it seems in the end
Is this what we're all living for today?
The world that we created

You know that every day a helpless child is born
Who needs some loving care inside a happy home
Somewhere, a wealthy man is sitting on his throne
Waiting for life to go by

Oh-oh, is this the world we created?
We made it on our own
Is this the world we devasted, right to the bone?
If there's a God in the sky, looking down
What can he think of what we've done
To the world that He created?

Those supporting the GoFundMe will deem any publicity good publicity.
It's now exceeded the target of £30,000, highlighting the power of social media and it's love of speculation.