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Family member hit by cyclist and now in A&E where it is standing room only

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Litterpicker Mon 24-Jun-24 23:39:53

My son-in-law was out running earlier and was hit by a cyclist (on a shared use path). He has a shoulder injury and is now in his second A&E as the nearest one said waiting time was at least 8 hours and he probably wouldn’t be seen until tomorrow morning. The next nearest to his home is standing room only. He is in considerable pain. I am so angry 😡

eazybee Tue 25-Jun-24 09:22:52

All my three adult children are runners, and one of them was hit by a car recently.

Where was this person running on the road,?
Not surprising to be hit by a car if so.

Some sympathy for the runner hit on the pavement by a cyclist.
Rules about roads and pavements and cyclists and runners need clarifying and enforcing..

M0nica Tue 25-Jun-24 09:51:53

Luckygirl You will probably not be taken to A&E but fast tracked to the cardiac admissions ward. That is what happened to DH each time he had acute heart symptoms.

Either way ring them. better lying in an ambulance outside the hospital with help to hand than staying where you are.

Aveline Tue 25-Jun-24 10:08:10

I'm just popping in to see if Luckygirl has come back with an update.
Also really hoping the OPs poor SiL has been seen and safely discharged home.

Marydoll Tue 25-Jun-24 10:15:48

M0nica

Luckygirl You will probably not be taken to A&E but fast tracked to the cardiac admissions ward. That is what happened to DH each time he had acute heart symptoms.

Either way ring them. better lying in an ambulance outside the hospital with help to hand than staying where you are.

Not always. I had to stay in A&E twice because there were no available beds. Every experience is different.

maddyone Tue 25-Jun-24 10:54:25

Katyj I’m so sorry to hear of your mum’s death. I know how much you have taken care of her in the last couple of years and finally managed to get her into a care home flowers

maddyone Tue 25-Jun-24 11:02:43

eazybee

^All my three adult children are runners, and one of them was hit by a car recently.^

Where was this person running on the road,?
Not surprising to be hit by a car if so.

Some sympathy for the runner hit on the pavement by a cyclist.
Rules about roads and pavements and cyclists and runners need clarifying and enforcing..

eazybee he was running in a country area where there are no pavements. The car emerged from a corner too near to the turn/hedging, and didn’t stop to look either way at the junction. Luckily, because it was a corner she was driving slowly, but with such a close turn she ran into my son and pushed him back into the hedging. The hedging concealed her view but she still didn’t stop. She was wrong. She should have stopped at the junction. It is a country area with no footpaths, and all pedestrians and many horses use the side of the road because there is no alternative. Of course my son doesn’t run in the road if there is a pavement. The driver knew the conditions and failed to take the correct action. She was driving a big four wheel drive too. My son was very lucky to avoid injury but was badly shaken up.

maddyone Tue 25-Jun-24 11:04:09

I hope Litterpicker’s SiL and Luckygirl are both okay.

nightowl Tue 25-Jun-24 11:16:13

I hope your SIL is ok Litterpicker, and that you are ok Luckygirl and receiving care. My husband has AF and it is a horrible condition.

I wish I could be as positive as some of you about A&E. my poor husband has had two heart attacks in the last 18 months, and both times the conditions in A&E were dreadful. The wait for an ambulance for someone with chest pains and a long history of heart problems was two hours and I was advised to take him by car. I thought he would die at points on the journey, not conducive to safe driving. Once there, he was left to wait in the main holding area for hours with no monitoring and no communication. It is a truly terrifying state of affairs.

The treatment he received after he was admitted was good, but I’m not convinced the delay did not add to the damage to his heart. Even worse, it could have been too late for him, and sadly for some it will be.

Kate1949 Tue 25-Jun-24 11:21:49

I'm sorry to hear about your SIL. I hope he recovers well. Three weeks ago my husband was very ill. I rang 111 and after assessing him, they said they would send an ambulance but if we could get him to A&E quicker, we should do so. So we did.

The waiting time was 8/9 hours which kept getting longer with ambulances coming in with people with serious problems. My DH was assessed within an hour but waited 8 hours to see a doctor. My husband was very poorly but we just had to wait along with everyone else. DH was admitted eventually and treated. The staff were wonderful throughout and his aftercare was second to none. There were a few people complaining about the wait but it was pointless complaining. They were doing their best.

dragonfly46 Tue 25-Jun-24 11:23:12

When I was taken into hospital by ambulance with AF they took me straight to the heart hospital bypassing A&E.

Bellanonna Tue 25-Jun-24 11:38:25

As we haven’t heard from Luckygirl I hope that means she’s receiving treatment.

10 days ago my husband had heart pains. My daughter came round and rang 111, who in turn rang 999. An ambulance arrived in 10 minutes. He was given cardiac tests and then taken
to Kings at Denmark Hill, to cardiac admissions. Thoroughly triaged and then put on a cardio ward for 8 days. No waiting. I can’t speak highly enough about all the input he received as a (very) elderly man with poor prognosis. He is now home and happy to be here, feeling grateful for the excellent care he was given. A. Friday night admission would not usually be so easy but to be fair he didn’t go to A&E.

I hope we hear from Lucky soon and that she is being given all the help she needs.

Litterpicker Tue 25-Jun-24 13:22:04

Hello everyone! Thank you all for your sympathy and concern for my SiL He was seen about 4 and had x-ray. They thought a rotator cuff injury and were going to send him home but then had second thoughts and took him in for another x-ray and CT scan - verdict, dislocated shoulder. They put it back in place (he had gas and air for pain relief), but it popped out again, so he is now waiting for an operation and was second on the list, last I heard. He was given some morphine so that was a relief.

In answer to comments about the cyclist and cyclists in general - yes, Avalon, most are considerate. SiL recalls hearing a shout of ‘middle’ from behind but was hit while trying to work out what that meant and where it was coming from. It was around 5.30pm and the path was busy and noisy. pascal50, even a bell takes a few seconds to react to, if you hear it. My DH is hearing impaired and cannot hear a bicycle bell - I am always hauling him out of the way of cyclists.

Iam64, it’s good to hear you had a positive experience. Minor injuries units are good but tend to close early - our local one is 9-5.

Callistemon, 13 hours with a head wound is horrific. Thirteen hours on a hard chair is awful even if you’re not injured or ill!

nightowl and KATE1949, I am so sorry to hear of you experiences with your DHs. Good to know they both had good treatment eventually.

Katyj, I am so sorry for your experience with your Mum, and for your loss since. It’s hard when one of your last memories is of a bad experience but you were with her and caring for her and that is the main thing.

petra and Grantanow, I hadn’t watched the Dispatches programme last night because I couldn’t face it but did watch it this morning. I will also watch the debate after. The strain on staff is unbearable too.

Bellanonna, good to hear of another good experience.

Coronation, thank you for your support and sympathy.

I too, hope that Luckygirl is receiving treatment and that we will hear from her when she is able.

Thank you to all, including anyone I’ve missed replying to, for your support and sympathy. I really hope that things can be improved, especially for those older or more vulnerable.

Jaxjacky Tue 25-Jun-24 13:29:48

Litterpicker good he’s been seen at last, his shoulder must be very unstable for them to operate, they’ll probably bolster the ligaments. My son can put his shoulder back in when it occasionally dislocates.
I hope your son in law has a speedy recovery.

Callistemon213 Tue 25-Jun-24 14:36:07

verdict, dislocated shoulder. They put it back in place (he had gas and air for pain relief), but it popped out again, so he is now waiting for an operation and was second on the list, last I heard. He was given some morphine so that was a relief

Been there, had it put back in, so far ok, Litterpicker except for twinges sometimes.
The poor man must have been in agony. I'm surprised it wasn't disgnosed quickly.

Callistemon213 Tue 25-Jun-24 14:38:00

Callistemon, 13 hours with a head wound is horrific. Thirteen hours on a hard chair is awful even if you’re not injured or ill!

That was total time, including scan and results, then stitching up.

Farzanah Tue 25-Jun-24 14:41:55

Shrewsbury hospital which featured on Dispatches is my local hospital. I am concerned that this documentary, whilst drawing attention to the terrible situation patients and staff are having to endure,may put people off from attending, or indeed medical staff coming to work here.

I do not think Shrewsbury Hospital is an outlier, and many many hospitals may be similar, sadly.
I have to say also that friends of mine have also had positive experiences when visiting A&E.

Where are you Luckygirl? I hope you have received help and support.

Kate1949 Tue 25-Jun-24 15:09:04

Just to add, we were 8 hours waiting to see a doctor then DH was an hour or so on a drip, antibiotics, anti sickness drugs, oxygen, then a few hours on a trolley in the corridor, then a move to his own room in A&E waiting for another doctor, then admitted. We were there 26 hours in all but I think about 10 in A&E. They let him out the next night onto the care of a 'virtual ward'. They were all great to be honest. It was a surreal experience. Minding our own business one minute then all this.

Aveline Tue 25-Jun-24 15:20:09

I know Katy1949. It's such a shock suddenly going from all OK to rushing to hospital and all that involves. It feels surreal at times.

Kate1949 Tue 25-Jun-24 15:28:14

It certainly does Aveline. DH said to me afterwards 'Did that really happen?'

Marydoll Tue 25-Jun-24 15:44:03

I do hope ?Luckygirl is OK.

petra Tue 25-Jun-24 15:55:30

Kate1949

It certainly does Aveline. DH said to me afterwards 'Did that really happen?'

I know the feeling. Last year I saw my Dr over something that was happening. That was at 11am.
He did an ECG and then told me that he’d phoned the hospital and they were expecting me. I didn’t leave the hospital until 11 am the next day.
I remember saying to my partner did that really happen
When I saw my Dr after having an MRI scan I asked him why the rush. He told me I was showing all the signs of a brain tumour. I didn’t have one.

Moonwatcher1904 Tue 25-Jun-24 16:10:36

Farzanah We watched that episode of Despatches last night. It's disgraceful that not just that hospital but many are in the same state. I felt so sorry for that man that had to pee in a bottle in public and the health care assistant who helped him.

Sadly it's not just this government but goes back many years. We had 8 hospitals in our area specialising in Orthopaedics, geriatric amongst other things and now they are all gone with only our main hospital for everything. I can't see how it will ever be sorted short of a miracle. GP surgeries are closing and I signed a petition in our local pharmacy to save it.

I have a growth on my back which the doctor said isn't anything to worry about even though it's uncomfortable, itchy and sometimes painful so he won't treat it. It's one of those treatments that GP's are not allowed to treat now unless I go private.

Litterpicker I hope your son in law is ok and has been attended to now. xx

eazybee Tue 25-Jun-24 16:23:01

I am sorry Maddyone but your son should not be running on a country road without verges or pavements. For many years the last part of my drive home from work was via narrow country lanes lacking markings, verges/pavements, lights and with high hedges.
Joggers and runners, frequently dressed in dark clothing, would appear apparently out of nowhere in the dusk, or run in the middle of the road not facing oncoming traffic. Very foolish and dangerous to drivers who were unfamiliar with the route and in the winter months.

Allsorts Tue 25-Jun-24 16:40:50

Luckygirl must know if she should summons help, no one knows how she is feeling. I don’think I would be holidaying alone in a Shephers Hut with AF
litterpicker, sorry about your sil, the times my friend has been pulled out if the way because of cyclist on the pavement as she is deaf and can’t hear them coming. It’s got silly now. They come up silently and don't give enough room, they should be charged. Its their responsibility to ride safely. Do hope his operation is a success sure it will be but what a nightmare

Katyj Tue 25-Jun-24 17:39:43

maddyone. Thank you. That’s so kind of you. Mum passed away peacefully 3 weeks ago. Me and my son were with her. She fought to stay, without water or food for eight days, bless her. I complained about her stubborn ways, but she was the most amazing mum.
Still can’t believe it.