Princess diana

Iam64 I'm not sure if Camilla would have stuck with Charles as she was reputedly very much in love with Andrew Parker-Bowles too but I understand he was rather a 'ladies' man'. They, of course, had the blessing of their two children.

However, I do believe Camilla was (and is) the true love of Charles' life.

I feel sorry for him and Diana and for what their boys have had to endure as a consequence too.

I've never watched The Crown (imsginitive rubbish?) and do realise fairytales belong in books and films.

You’re correct Callistemon. I’ve always thought Harry’s comparison is influenced by his anger at the way he believes his mother, like his wife, was seen in the RF as non conformist, an outsider not complying to expectation

Anniebach You always leap in to criticise Diana, but never a word of criticism for Camilla who slept with Charles while married to Parker Bowles and with 2 young children.

Anyway, I cannot see that Meghan is anything like Diana.

One was a fairly innocent 19 year old with stars in her eyes, the other a mature, experienced 35 year old divorcée.

Callistemon213

Calendargirl

What a good job the RF have moved on, in terms of marrying virgins, living together before getting wed, etc.

Different times over 40 years ago.

If Charles and Diana had shared more of life together beforehand, they would never have married.

What a good job the RF have moved on, in terms of marrying virgins, living together before getting wed, etc.

Yes. If those rules had not applied then Charles would have married the love of his life instead of being prevented from doing so, he would not have been sent away and she would not have married someone else.
He would not have been coerced into an unsuitable arranged marriage which made both of them unhappy.

However, every cloud has a silver lining, theirs being their two sons.

Thanks Callistemon. The marriage between Charles and Diana was doomed. The age gap, life experience so very different and of course , that cringe interview where he said ‘whatever in love means’ with her holding tears as she responded ‘of course’. They scarcely knew each other and had next to nothing in common.
Their sons are different personalities -something most of us will see in our own families. I wish them well

Don’t get me started 😱😱😱

Sorry?

The fairy tales are so loved, the innocent princess, the wicked godmother, evil queen

Calendargirl

What a good job the RF have moved on, in terms of marrying virgins, living together before getting wed, etc.

Different times over 40 years ago.

If Charles and Diana had shared more of life together beforehand, they would never have married.

What a good job the RF have moved on, in terms of marrying virgins, living together before getting wed, etc.

Yes. If those rules had not applied then Charles would have married the love of his life instead of being prevented from doing so, he would not have been sent away and she would not have married someone else.
He would not have been coerced into an unsuitable arranged marriage which made both of them unhappy.

However, every cloud has a silver lining, theirs being their two sons.

What a good job the RF have moved on, in terms of marrying virgins, living together before getting wed, etc.

Different times over 40 years ago.

If Charles and Diana had shared more of life together beforehand, they would never have married.

What sources ? You think all the girls he dated were bedworthy
but not marriage material, I do not

I do not believe that Diana was examined to make sure she was a virgin before she married, although I would think she was.

I expect she may have been examined to make sure she would be able to bear children.

Anniebach

I really don’t believe the ‘must be a virgin’ Charles had many relationships, one with Diana’s sister, all would have been virgins ?

Charles dated and slept with many women, that is true and was no secret. In fact almost every dalliance was reported in the press. However, you are missing the point entirely. He wasn't going to marry them. His future bride had to be a virgin, that is fact. Diana was examined by a doctor at some point before the wedding to confirm it. Diana related the humiliating process years later and it has been confirmed by other sources. If she had not been a virgin, the marriage would not have taken place. That is why there was such a disparity in their ages as suitable virgins in the 1980's were becoming increasingly hard to find.

Quote Sparklefizz Tue 09-Jul-24 20:54:02
You know, what he actually said was ‘ Whatever ‘in love’ means’, and, despite what Burrell says, she did not ‘look horrified’.

I have seen the whole film clip on one of those Channel 5 documentaries, and after Charles has said that, she says "Of course!" and then looks away to the side and seems on the verge of tears.

The full interview is on uTube, the look to the side is repeated many times, must have difficult being interview for tv.

She thought it was the fairytale, she was so young & she would've thought if he asked to marry her, he must love her. I'm sure she was in love with him in her schoolgirl way, & I think if she hadn't been, she wouldn't have married him. Diana & Meaghan share(d) an openness that Catherine doesn't have, Catherine has poise instead, but I don't think their personalities are similar from the limited insight we have. King Charles is a good egg, but Diana - I think she was just amazing, such an asset for the UK (she was the undisputed most famous woman in the world for years) why squander & neglect her magic? Life is so sad.

Diana was hard done by, whatever you like to think Annie. She was only 19 and young for her age, and had every right to expect her husband to love her. He didn't, and he made that clear, and everything that followed stemmed from that.

You know, what he actually said was ‘ Whatever ‘in love’ means’, and, despite what Burrell says, she did not ‘look horrified’.

I have seen the whole film clip on one of those Channel 5 documentaries, and after Charles has said that, she says "Of course!" and then looks away to the side and seems on the verge of tears.

I really don’t believe the ‘must be a virgin’ Charles had many relationships, one with Diana’s sister, all would have been virgins ?

Check out the whole interview where when asked if they were in love, Charles, quite matter-of-fact, said “Whatever in love means”.

Diana blushing with embarrassment, said emphatically, “Of course!” I said at the time Methinks she doth protest too much!

She wanted the fairytale more than the man IMO and he need a virgin - a recipe for disaster, what?

Daddima

lemsip

Anniebach

He did not say that, the press certainly did.

He said 'whatever love is' .
he showed he didn't love her by preferring camilla

you have a real 'thing' about Diana don't you!

You know, what he actually said was ‘ Whatever ‘in love’ means’, and, despite what Burrell says, she did not ‘look horrified’.

I remember the interview very well. Almost as if it was yesterday. I thought it an incredibly strange thing for him to say post engagement and to camera, even allowing for the royal family's stilted emotions. Diana, who was only 19 years old and very sheltered, did not look horrified but she was certainly uncomfortable and confused. Rightly so as it transpired.

1995. Diana tv interview ‘ replying to a question about
Mrs. Parker Bowles. (There were 3 in the marriage so it was a bit crowded’

2005. Police investigated a letter written by Diana in 1995,
‘My husband is planning an accident in my car, brake failure
serous head injury so he can marry Tiggy’

It was given much press coverage that at a Christmas party
Diana said to Tiggy ‘I am sorry about the baby’ Tiggy was awarded damages from BBC in 2022 Martin Basheer had lied to Diana.

I speak of this as one reason I believe Diana was mentally ill,
she was lied to , yet in the BBC interview still accused Camilla.

William spoke of it when it was made public, he was angry and
said the BBC and Basheer had played on his mother’s paranoia.

I am not attacking Diana,

Quote lemsip Tue 09-Jul-24 10:40:46
Anniebach
He did not say that, the press certainly did.
He said 'whatever love is' .
he showed he didn't love her by preferring camilla

you have a real 'thing' about Diana don't you!

I have a real ‘thing’ about lies and ‘it must be true it’s in the papers’

lemsip

Anniebach

He did not say that, the press certainly did.

He said 'whatever love is' .
he showed he didn't love her by preferring camilla

you have a real 'thing' about Diana don't you!

You know, what he actually said was ‘ Whatever ‘in love’ means’, and, despite what Burrell says, she did not ‘look horrified’.

Anniebach

He did not say that, the press certainly did.

He said 'whatever love is' .
he showed he didn't love her by preferring camilla

you have a real 'thing' about Diana don't you!

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