Germanshepherdsmum are you back? Hope so.
Is Mumsnet down today (13th May)
By special request, let’s discuss our favourite Classic Music and why?
I am just watching the Downtown Abbey series for the second time.
I was amazed to see a maid curling Lady Mary's hair with an electric curling tong which was not invented until 1959.
When I first saw the episode I thought where on earth was this curling tong when I was a teenager in the late 50's, I had to use rollers.
I know they used curling tongs which were heated on the fire like flat irons used to be but showing an electric curling tong in the Downtown Abbey series supposedly in 1919 is a gross error.
Germanshepherdsmum are you back? Hope so.
Hi. I know that when you search online for electric curling irons, some sources say they were invented in the 1959, but that is very untrue. I know because I own multiple ecletric curling irons from the 1920's and 30's. There are records for advertisements for electric curling irons as early as 1915.
Some french guy has one (of many) patents for an electric curling iron, and I guess some blogger found that and assumed it was the first patent for one, but often times the invention pre-dates the patent, patents are often for "improvements" on products, rather than the complete invention.
ixion
I am reporting this, Maw. (Not you!).
This is NOT the type of post which shows Gransnet at its best.
We can do without it.
Whilst I totally agree with you, from a personal perspective and new to GN, it is nice to feel I can post a comment without receiving a harsh response. I am all for free speech and other's opinions to learn and enlighten but not in a derogatory fashion.
I just hope it don’t bring the wrath of GNHQ down on my head as happened once before when I called something out and I was deleted instead! 🤔🤔🤔
I am reporting this, Maw. (Not you!).
This is NOT the type of post which shows Gransnet at its best.
We can do without it.
I am so glad that{{(name deleted so as not to repeat the insult}} has been slapped on the wrists and had her snide unnecessary comments removed by gransnet. It’s about time she learnt how to mind her manners !
This is victimisation - unkind, and equally ill mannered. We are all responsible adults here, not naughty school kids to be slapped on the wrists.
Thank you so much Rosie, it is very kind of you.
HattieTopper it's not possible to edit or delete your own posts. GN delete some posts that break forum guidelines, often after another poster has reported them. If a poster wants their own post removed then they have to use the 'report' button and ask for it to be removed, giving reasons. Sometimes GN agree to delete it, other times they don't.
Use the 'preview' option to check typing or to edit before actually pressing 'post'. Hope that helps.
NotSpaghetti
It's a nice photo HattieTopper - I wasn't intending to sound "bossy" - I just thought you may have missed it.
Apologies!
Of course you didn't sound bossy, thank you for letting me know about your earlier comments, I read most of the comments on the forum but not all.
I am new to the forums and noticed a lot of deleted comments. How do you delete something when you have made an error when typing or edit it before posting, I can't find anywhere to do that.
It's a nice photo HattieTopper - I wasn't intending to sound "bossy" - I just thought you may have missed it.
Apologies!
I also found this report.
Introduction of Electrically Heated Curling Irons
"In the 1950s, electrically heated curling irons came onto the scene. These irons eliminated the need for open flames or stoves, making curling hair safer and more accessible. Electric curling irons were designed with a heating element embedded within the barrel, which allowed for more precise curls."
Yes, thank you I read it and I also read that some of the posters had not seen the series where the maid was using the tongs so I thought they may be interested to see them in action.
If you scroll back to my comment 20/07/2024 16:36 there's a link to a nice short paper about them HattieTopper
MatildaMay
I am just watching the Downtown Abbey series for the second time.
I was amazed to see a maid curling Lady Mary's hair with an electric curling tong which was not invented until 1959.
When I first saw the episode I thought where on earth was this curling tong when I was a teenager in the late 50's, I had to use rollers.
I know they used curling tongs which were heated on the fire like flat irons used to be but showing an electric curling tong in the Downtown Abbey series supposedly in 1919 is a gross error.
I have been reading all the comments about Downton Abbey and found a photograph of the ladies maid using electric curling tongs.
If you are referring to “colour blind casting” why should actors of diverse ethnic backgrounds be restricted to playing minority ethnicity roles? It’s like saying only blondes can play blondes- only hunchbacks can play Richard III or black men Othello (Italians Romeo or Juliet, Scotsmen Macbeth etc etc etc ) surely in our inclusive age, we have progressed beyond that?
It's interesting going on (-perhaps imo obsessively)about authenticity , and yet being tolerant of black actors in the dramas set in High Society circles in the 17th, 18th & 19th centuries. In reality they were very, very rare indeed, in High Society. ( Whilst thousands of thousands were in slavery )
I am so glad that germanshepherdsmum has been slapped on the wrists and had her snide unnecessary comments removed by gransnet. It’s about time she learnt how to mind her manners !
My mum had a small old pr of curling tongs which they heated up in the fire.I inherited them but they seem to have dissapeared...🤔🙄
RosiesMaw2
NotAGran55
Lady Carnarvon is regularly on Radio Berkshire, and has said that she has delicately had to point out to the production team that they got things wrong on Downton Abbey.
They will also have earned an arm and a leg from the TV company!
Indeed. And she acknowledges that too.
NotAGran55
Lady Carnarvon is regularly on Radio Berkshire, and has said that she has delicately had to point out to the production team that they got things wrong on Downton Abbey.
They will also have earned an arm and a leg from the TV company!
Lady Carnarvon is regularly on Radio Berkshire, and has said that she has delicately had to point out to the production team that they got things wrong on Downton Abbey.
PS I know they’re not real!
And Martha always looked quite sour, which didn’t help!
RosiesMaw2
Really CalendarGirl ? I thought Cora/Lady Grantham (Elizabeth McGovern) always looked rather elegant.
Did you perhaps mean her mother Martha played by Shirley MacLaine?
Oh, apologies! I didn’t mean Cora!
Yes, of course it was her mother Martha, hence the Shirley McLaine comment.
Duh!
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Really CalendarGirl ? I thought Cora/Lady Grantham (Elizabeth McGovern) always looked rather elegant.
Did you perhaps mean her mother Martha played by Shirley MacLaine?
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