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Downton Abbey electrical curling tongs.

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MatildaMay Tue 16-Jul-24 17:33:54

I am just watching the Downtown Abbey series for the second time.

I was amazed to see a maid curling Lady Mary's hair with an electric curling tong which was not invented until 1959.

When I first saw the episode I thought where on earth was this curling tong when I was a teenager in the late 50's, I had to use rollers.

I know they used curling tongs which were heated on the fire like flat irons used to be but showing an electric curling tong in the Downtown Abbey series supposedly in 1919 is a gross error.

Callistemon213 Tue 16-Jul-24 17:47:10

Did you see her plug it in?
Or did it look like this?

Elegran Tue 16-Jul-24 17:54:00

This blogger has a photograph of a Victorian curling iron with a wooden handle, and a plug that can draw electricity from a light bulb socket.
americanatdowntonblog.blogspot.com/2012/01/girls-with-curls.html

Elegran Tue 16-Jul-24 17:55:47

And here is the photo.

Elegran Tue 16-Jul-24 17:57:11

The second picture is a modern one.

Namsnanny Tue 16-Jul-24 18:07:47

The series went to great lengths to be authentic.

Smileless2012 Tue 16-Jul-24 18:37:42

hmm what about when Lady Grantham lost her baby and Thomas said it would only have been the size of a hamster. Hamsters weren't domesticated until 1939, so Thomas wouldn't have heard of them.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 16-Jul-24 18:50:32

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MatildaMay Tue 16-Jul-24 19:35:15

Callistemon213

Did you see her plug it in?
Or did it look like this?

No, but I saw the wire coming from the handle and it was similar to one I have now with a long thin barrel and a thumb thingy that you pressed down and the tongs opened.

It was nothing like the one with the three prong tubes which is heated over a fire like the old type non electric flat irons used to be.

The one showing further down the forum with the chunky barrel is also like the one I own now. Modern.

MatildaMay Tue 16-Jul-24 19:37:21

Germanshepherdsmum

Thank goodness I have never watched Downtown Abbey!

I love these types of series, the glamour, the dresses, the maids etc. I always said I was born to be a lady. Even to this day I hate self service restaurants or cafes, I always go for waitress/waiter service. It is more expensive but well worth it.

RosiesMaw2 Tue 16-Jul-24 20:09:29

Germanshepherdsmum

Thank goodness I have never watched Downtown Abbey!

Why?
Julian Fellowes wrote an extremely watchable and entertaining family saga. Why the faux snobbery decrying something you claim never to have seen?

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 16-Jul-24 20:13:47

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Germanshepherdsmum Tue 16-Jul-24 20:15:17

Not my thing Rosies. I enjoy fact rather than fiction.

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petra Tue 16-Jul-24 20:25:23

Elegran

This blogger has a photograph of a Victorian curling iron with a wooden handle, and a plug that can draw electricity from a light bulb socket.
americanatdowntonblog.blogspot.com/2012/01/girls-with-curls.html

That’s where our iron was plugged in in the 50s.

NotSpaghetti Tue 16-Jul-24 20:26:34

With the advent of electricity, tongs that plugged in to wall sockets appeared first on the market in the USA in the early 20th century. The French hairdresser Marcel Grateau caused a sensation in 1872 when he used tongs to create waves instead of curls

Pitt Rivers Museum

NotSpaghetti Tue 16-Jul-24 20:30:07

Hence the Marcel wave!

NotSpaghetti Tue 16-Jul-24 20:48:48

I have never watched this series but have just looked this up. Hamsters came to the UK (London Zoo initially), in the 1930s and by the mid-1940s were kept as pets. Israel Aharoni, a zoologist, brought them from Aleppo in 1930 via Jerusalem’s Hebrew University.

National Geographic

RosiesMaw2 Tue 16-Jul-24 21:07:02

Germanshepherdsmum

Each to their own! And thank goodness I don’t use curling tongs! You sound, dare I say, a little old fashioned.

I wonder what part of anything I have posted could have given you that impression

Callistemon213 Tue 16-Jul-24 23:34:26

RosiesMaw2

Germanshepherdsmum

Each to their own! And thank goodness I don’t use curling tongs! You sound, dare I say, a little old fashioned.

I wonder what part of anything I have posted could have given you that impression

My DGD pinched my old curling tongs a few weeks ago, so they must be the 'in' thing again!

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 17-Jul-24 09:00:28

The post you have quoted, Rosies, was meant for MatildaMay, not you.

Tuaim Wed 17-Jul-24 09:35:56

RosiesMaw2

Germanshepherdsmum

Each to their own! And thank goodness I don’t use curling tongs! You sound, dare I say, a little old fashioned.

I wonder what part of anything I have posted could have given you that impression

I am the Queen of old fashioned. I love any historical dramas, documentaries about the past and rummaging in antiques shops, visiting museums, castles and National Trust properties, and The Antiques Road Show etc. We each have our own style and likes which by this age for me is well defined as part of my personality. Just loving it!

RosiesMaw2 Wed 17-Jul-24 10:27:21

Mind you I love a good costume drama although with a theatre designer and costume historian in the family I keep an eagle eye on the costumes, hair and even facial types for possible anachronisms!

Nano14 Wed 17-Jul-24 11:13:07

You probably think of the 1920s when you hear about Marcel waves, and rightly so; they reached their height of popularity during the '20s, about 15 years after the first electric curling iron was invented. François Marcel introduced his spring-clamp electric model in 1918, making heat styling safer and easier than ever.
www.vintag.es/2017/06/vintage-pictures-show-step-by-step_25.html

Esmay Wed 17-Jul-24 11:21:46

I haven't seen that episode .
My grandma told me about the trials and tribulations of home curling sessions on hair .
Coming from a huge family of long haired girls they often burnt their hair and skin on the dreadful curling tongs that they used .
Later on , long hair cut short they were strung up to the Marcel Wave machines for hours .
It sounds horrendous .
I hate having my hair straightened and using rollers .
One thing that I often notice in period dramas - plants !
I've seen a Sherlock Holmes episode with beds of roses hybridised in the 1960's - the colour being unfashionable during Victorian times .
And a couple of Agatha Chrsties in which the roses depicted were not available at the time .