Have you seen what Jennifer Aniston has said about all this? The world is vile to women
Angela Rayner is a scrounger, grifter and shameless hypocrite.
Am I just being impatient and mean? New PM
Sign up to Gransnet Daily
Our free daily newsletter full of hot threads, competitions and discounts
Subscribe
J.D.Vance causes a stir with this comment resurfacing.
My DD is childfree as they call it now and perfectly happy (without cats).
Wouldn’t have missed out on children myself but what are your thoughts?
Love my cat and it’s an insult to them…
Have you seen what Jennifer Aniston has said about all this? The world is vile to women
AGAA4
Tuaim
Some people feel that children are just not for them. Better to live your life childless through choice than be forced to live up to some ideal set in place by society. Not all of us are motherly by nature or good at baking come to that.
If people choose to not have children then I would respect that choice and not call them " miserable cat ladies" as Vance did. They are entitled to their choice as I am entitled to mine.
I have four children who work in jobs that benefit the community. NHS, Education, government. They all pay taxes which benefits everyone.
We would be in a sorry state if nobody had children.
I totally agree with you and your children contribute a huge amount to our society. I think Vance and Trump find any loophole they can to insult the opposition if they are a woman. Some of Trump's comments about women have been downright insulting.
Callistemon213
Norah
Cats!! Who could possibly guess another way for the far left to prosper?
I think American Democrats are far from Far Left though.
Perhaps by our standards.
It does seem many Americans feel Kamala is far left on social matters.
Norah
Cats!! Who could possibly guess another way for the far left to prosper?
I think American Democrats are far from Far Left though.
Wheniwasyourage
Let’s hope he loses votes for Trump. 🤞
He's doing a good job of losing votes by insulting huge numbers of women.
He's definitely lost the votes of all cat-owners too, I would think.
Let’s hope he loses votes for Trump. 🤞
very good points Monica
Well he also just wished out of existence my niece and nephew who are IVF children .
He has no question lost a lot of votes for Trump with that one ! I wonder what Republicans that have used or would like to use IVF think of Trump now .
biglouis
People who have bred children need to remember that they are living upon the grace (eg taxes paid by) those who are child free.
At the moment of their conception it is extremely unlikely that the parents were actually thinking of the children, but rather of their own pleasure.
So in a very real sense the childfree are paying for others to f**k and have fun.
You forget that when you grow old you will be drawing a state pension, using the NHS, relying on lots of people younger than you to work in shops, make things you buy, mend roads, drive buses, grow food etc.
With no workers younger than you there will be no taxes, no pension, no healthcare, no food,
One of the major problems facing society at the moment is that, world wide birthrates have fallen to replacement level and in many cases, well below and already governments are talking about people having to work well into their 70s and older before they can draw pensions, of pensions being lower than they are now and medical care restricted.
It is you that needs to remember that your current income and confort is dependent on the taxes and work being done by other people's children and grandchildren.
Your last remark just shows your ignorance. Nowadays most people use contraception most of he time and only cease to use it when they are seeking to become pregnant, which means that the possibility of conceiving a child is very much on their mind at the time they do so.
Tuaim
Some people feel that children are just not for them. Better to live your life childless through choice than be forced to live up to some ideal set in place by society. Not all of us are motherly by nature or good at baking come to that.
If people choose to not have children then I would respect that choice and not call them " miserable cat ladies" as Vance did. They are entitled to their choice as I am entitled to mine.
I have four children who work in jobs that benefit the community. NHS, Education, government. They all pay taxes which benefits everyone.
We would be in a sorry state if nobody had children.
Oopsadaisy1
DamaskRose
biglouis
People who have bred children need to remember that they are living upon the grace (eg taxes paid by) those who are child free.
At the moment of their conception it is extremely unlikely that the parents were actually thinking of the children, but rather of their own pleasure.
So in a very real sense the childfree are paying for others to f**k and have fun.What a disgusting comment.
Not forgetting your own parents Biglouis
A deeply unpleasant original post.
Those who are cared for in their last hours of need, would probably disagree with you.
Wow BigLouis is this really you’re thought pattern ? if so it’s sick that is a real cruel untrue and vindictive sounding comment to make
So glad we ve never met
Some people feel that children are just not for them. Better to live your life childless through choice than be forced to live up to some ideal set in place by society. Not all of us are motherly by nature or good at baking come to that.
DamaskRose
biglouis
People who have bred children need to remember that they are living upon the grace (eg taxes paid by) those who are child free.
At the moment of their conception it is extremely unlikely that the parents were actually thinking of the children, but rather of their own pleasure.
So in a very real sense the childfree are paying for others to f**k and have fun.What a disgusting comment.
In what way is it a disgusting comment? It is, for me, an expression of how biglouis feels.
Biglouis, usually when I am reading a thread and your name comes up, I expect to see a nasty comment or two, this time you excelled yourself!
Visgir1
He doesn't know anything about her personal life and choice she made, that man is Thick and ignorant.
I'm proud to say I'm a Cat woman, even tho I have a DH, x2 AC, plus I have x2 cats.
I'm not keen on cats (they scare me) but if I had to choose between cats and Vance I'd choose 🐈🐈🐈🐈🐈 any day.
He doesn't know anything about her personal life and choice she made, that man is Thick and ignorant.
I'm proud to say I'm a Cat woman, even tho I have a DH, x2 AC, plus I have x2 cats.
Actually, they are paying our pensions .....
And for our NHS treatment
Biglouis 
DamaskRose
biglouis
People who have bred children need to remember that they are living upon the grace (eg taxes paid by) those who are child free.
At the moment of their conception it is extremely unlikely that the parents were actually thinking of the children, but rather of their own pleasure.
So in a very real sense the childfree are paying for others to f**k and have fun.What a disgusting comment.
Not forgetting your own parents Biglouis
MayBee70
DamaskRose
biglouis
People who have bred children need to remember that they are living upon the grace (eg taxes paid by) those who are child free.
At the moment of their conception it is extremely unlikely that the parents were actually thinking of the children, but rather of their own pleasure.
So in a very real sense the childfree are paying for others to f**k and have fun.What a disgusting comment.
Horrible.
Beyond the pale...
DamaskRose
biglouis
People who have bred children need to remember that they are living upon the grace (eg taxes paid by) those who are child free.
At the moment of their conception it is extremely unlikely that the parents were actually thinking of the children, but rather of their own pleasure.
So in a very real sense the childfree are paying for others to f**k and have fun.What a disgusting comment.
Horrible.
Vance is disgusting. Aside from those who choose to remain child free or cannot have children for whatever reason (and despite tries via IVF which he opposes) his comment is a slur on those of us whose only child died in infancy. I hope he goes to the bottom of the dustbin of history with the equally repellant Trump.
Registering is free, easy, and means you can join the discussion, watch threads and lots more.
Register now »Already registered? Log in with:
Gransnet »Get our top conversations, latest advice, fantastic competitions, and more, straight to your inbox. Sign up to our daily newsletter here.