I am a woman and I want women only spaces.

If I had a world of my own everything would be pink

Ideally there would be loo's for all persuasions and everyone could have their own space.

‘If I had a world of my own everything would be nonsense.
Nothing would be what it is because everything would be what it isn’t.
And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn’t be.
And what it wouldn’t be, it would.’

Quote from Alice in Wonderland.
Looks as though the Mad Hatter finally got his way

Yuk how awful @Sparklefizz I'd have done the same @Smileless2012 then grabbed the phone and rung 999, stayed locked in the cubicle with the mans phone until the police arrived.

I have to use a gender neutral loo at the hospital. I dont really mind in principle as they are enclosed with a sink....except for the seat being up and wee in the wrong places.... [hmmm] Plus they don't have a mirror, which is annoying.

I'd have slipped my shoes on and stamped on it .

A friend was getting changed in a locked cubicle at the leisure centre which had unisex changing cubicles. Suddenly she noticed a mobile phone sliding under the divide ......

Back in 1987 people didn’t have mobile phones with cameras to take furtive pictures or upskirt unwilling victims.
Some males may have had the same disrespect for females back then as the current group do now, but we weren’t aware of it and the results of their disrespectful antics were not available on the Internet.

Absolutely Mollygo I did read that there was a porn site labelled 'Primark porn' because the Primark logo was visible in the secretly taken photos of women in a state of undress. Can you imagine knowing your granddaughter or daughter's image would be satisfying perverted men for years to come?

It's sad that so many people don't condemn that disrespect and only want to provide solutions that do not support females exactly Molly and that is the issue isn't it.

Today 09:56 Rosie51

Times change? Women want and demand greater privacy? Places like Primark think a flimsy curtain is sufficiently 'secure' and women have the temerity to think otherwise? Who knows?
Gender neutral changing rooms etc weren't widespread in 1987. The internet was not in every home in 1987 so people weren't made aware of them.
Back in 1987 people didn’t have mobile phones with cameras to take furtive pictures or upskirt unwilling victims.
Some males may have had the same disrespect for females back then as the current group do now, but we weren’t aware of it and the results of their disrespectful antics were not available on the Internet.

Add to that the deterioration in the behaviour of some males which has increased the need for privacy for females. The concern used to be about communal changing rooms for females who were unhappy for whatever reason about getting changed in front of other females.
Add into that the very real concern about males deciding they deserve to be in female changing rooms.
I agree with the OP.
It’s sad that so many people don’t condemn that disrespect and only want to provide solutions that do not support females.

I think in any case, the best way for women to get the security they need is to outline what those needs are so that gender neutral changing rooms fulfill them

I personally would prefer a door I can lock, curtains never close properly

An attendant or a watched camera along a corridor with changing spaces would be ideal

This would resolve issues for me

Jackiest

Gender neutral changing spaces are not new. Centre Parcs had them back in 1987. No one complained about them back then why are we complaining about these things now.

Times change? Women want and demand greater privacy? Places like Primark think a flimsy curtain is sufficiently 'secure' and women have the temerity to think otherwise? Who knows?
Gender neutral changing rooms etc weren't widespread in 1987. The internet was not in every home in 1987 so people weren't made aware of them.

Jackiest

Gender neutral changing spaces are not new. Centre Parcs had them back in 1987. No one complained about them back then why are we complaining about these things now.

No idea, I have tried very hard to understand but I don't see the issue as long as they are secure

Corridors VS
Which corridors?

Gender neutral changing spaces are not new. Centre Parcs had them back in 1987. No one complained about them back then why are we complaining about these things now.

So the answer is separate secure cubicles, with entrances that are in view of the shop floor... in which case, it doesn't matter who uses them

I am not sure why corridors are suddenly unsafe but if corridors need to go for safety then sure

Maybe panic buttons would be a relatively cheap and reasonable solution

It's dreadful we have been denied women only spaces. I feel the same in that I will not go to a gender neutral loo or changing space. By the powers that be trying to be inclusive they are excluding us and it is unacceptable, unhygienic and unsafe. It's disgusting.

What attendant VS?
I think you are a bit confused.
If there was a single cubicle in the female section (To clarify any confusion you might have about this, single means not communal and not part of a group of cubicles ) then of course your husband can pass them to you.
When there’s a group of female cubicles, my husband, being a polite, considerate man who is respectful towards females, either calls me from the entrance to the area, that he has my garments, and I collect them, or if there’s one of the attendants you brought into the situation, passes them to her and she brings them to me.
Being a polite, respectful and considerate gentleman, he would not dream of walking into female changing rooms.
Would yours?

The attendant in the OP

Providing I have privacy when I am actually getting undressed and putting on the clothes then that is all I require. When I open the door to the cubical I am happy for there to be men there as I am respectable dressed even if I am just trying on clothes.

Now you've lost me, what attendant, where? Mollygo didn't mention an attendant did she? It was male customers who told her the changing cubicle was for men!

With an attendant?

VioletSky

Ok then what makes a room directly off the shop floor any different to a room with cubicles off the shop floor?

Or is it the fact that a shop assistant said they were unisex that made it an issue?

Or is it the fact that a shop assistant said they were unisex that made it an issue? eh? who said it was an issue, not me. I described a similar set up to the one mentioned by Mollygo where you thought she had invaded men's privacy, but her husband was using a single stand-alone cubicle, so nobody else around.

I'd have thought the difference between one stand-alone cubicle and a bank of cubicles off a communal access space is pretty self explanatory.

Ok then what makes a room directly off the shop floor any different to a room with cubicles off the shop floor?

Or is it the fact that a shop assistant said they were unisex that made it an issue?

VS If I understand correctly Mollygo's husband was in a single stand-alone changing cubicle, not a cubicle amongst many others. There was no chance of anybody else being in a state of undress, so I don't see the problem. In a similar situation VS your husband could equally bring you other sizes. In Canada there were stores where the single changing cubicle was on the shop floor, and yes people were handing alternatives to their partners inside. The queue for it consisted of men and women.

That's a bit of a sweeping statement

So my husband can bring me clothes to the women's changing area too and pass them to me?

It's a pain to go get a different size

Wow VS!
The changing area is by the men’s clothing. It isn’t labelled anything.
I was carrying men’s clothing for my DH who was already in the (single) changing cubicle. If it had been a communal area or even individual cubicles in that area I’d not have gone in because I have respect for the needs of the opposite sex.
The men pointed out that the changing room was for men. I agreed and pointed out that my DH was changing in there.

Don’t try to make that into something it’s not.
It’s only those TW who want to cause problems (and their fans of course) who go into places where they shouldn’t be because they don’t have respect for the opposite sex.