Another missing poster

"I just wish that all of the petty reporting would stop and we, as experienced adults could be left to judge for ourselves and challenge those who are rude or downright out of order.
I’d like to see all posters return and those who have GNHQ on speed dial reprimanded." Laura Norderr

I agree, Laura.

Of course its allowed not to like something, or someone.

Vile comments, particularly uncalled for ones, however, denigrating women...

Oreo

I admire AR for forging ahead and getting somewhere in life, but just thought the trouser suit was awful.
I suppose that’s allowed? Am beginning to doubt it on here.
I also thought Sunak would have looked better in a not so tight suit given how thin he is, and yes it’s the fashion just as the trouser suit was, but fashion isn’t always kind to the wearer.
I further thought that Theresa May would have looked better in a longer jacket, and Boris in a well fitted suit.Nichola Sturgeon would have looked better in a lower heel and not in such eye watering neon colours.I thought I may as well go the whole hog in my thoughts on political leaders and fashion while we’re here.😄

Why would that not be 'allowed'?

It is not making personal, snobbish, sexist or offensive comments, just expressing a preference for one style of fashion over another. And it's not doing the former whilst pretending you are simply doing the latter.

In terms of insults, an ex-neighbour called the three year old son of another ex-neighbour a guttersnipe! Could that be used to describe a man?

biglouis

Tarty is a (mainly working class) adjective which was often thrown about in my native Liverpol when I was younger. I dont know if this is still the case as its 40 years since I lived there. The equivalent insult for a male was to call him a "prick" which carries both sexual and social class connotations. "Oik" and "twat" were two others.

I remember that when I was young the wearing of an ankle bracelet was regarded as tarty, if not worse. times have changed. I told my niece about copper bracelets being elpful for arthritis. I have two, one for each wrist. She thought she might wear one on her ankle. She is over 40 and has no idea of the earlier meaning.

I admire AR for forging ahead and getting somewhere in life, but just thought the trouser suit was awful.
I suppose that’s allowed? Am beginning to doubt it on here.
I also thought Sunak would have looked better in a not so tight suit given how thin he is, and yes it’s the fashion just as the trouser suit was, but fashion isn’t always kind to the wearer.
I further thought that Theresa May would have looked better in a longer jacket, and Boris in a well fitted suit.Nichola Sturgeon would have looked better in a lower heel and not in such eye watering neon colours.I thought I may as well go the whole hog in my thoughts on political leaders and fashion while we’re here.😄

JaneJudge

It always does. I think if Gransnet just answered the questions it wouldn’t continue but they don’t seem that bothered 🤷‍♀️

They dont much answer questions, do they?
Quite surprised about that.

This thread isnt in Site Stuff.
And it is a weekend.
Perhaps they havent read it.

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Allira

Doodledog

MissAdventure

Those male insults don't pertain to a mans sexual values where I come from.
There isn't a male version, except "man whore", and doesn't that just sound wonderful?
Yet people think its acceptable to fling it around about Rayner.

That's what I was trying to say

Gigolo?
But that sounds rather glamorous.

There’s always “Rentboy” (don’t ask me how I know )

I only skimmed and I thought you meant our Gransnetter, Aveline was deceased!!!

It's Melanie Hill, ixion
She was also Aveline

Allira

^Nellie Boswell used to call Lilo Lil a 'taaaart', in Bread^

Has anyone noticed that Aveline from Bread is now Nurse Clinical Lead in Casualty?
(Sorry, off-topic, well).

Is that an old Casualty?

Aveline/Gilly Coman died in 2010.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-10655320

JaneJudge

It always does. I think if Gransnet just answered the questions it wouldn’t continue but they don’t seem that bothered 🤷‍♀️

I agree that it was the idea of having a working class woman in power that caused so much of the fury. For some, a woman from a council estate with O levels having a better job than someone with professional qualifications is against the natural order of things. Having such a woman in a position of power over them is simply unconscionable.

I also agree that deleting threads is a bit pointless, particularly when we are only told in the vaguest of terms why they have gone. People want to have their say, plus we can't see what's already been said if it's been deleted.

OTOH, if HQ got involved in discussions they would go on forever, and they won't want to go into detail if there is a backstory to any of the bannings, so I understand. In their shoes I would probably just wait till everyone is bored with it all and it fizzles out.

Women are always reduced to their appearance, always

It doesn’t matter who they are, where they are from, what they’ve achieved, what they lived through. All that matters is what they look like and what they are wearing.

Doodledog

MissAdventure

Those male insults don't pertain to a mans sexual values where I come from.
There isn't a male version, except "man whore", and doesn't that just sound wonderful?
Yet people think its acceptable to fling it around about Rayner.

That's what I was trying to say

Gigolo?
But that sounds rather glamorous.

Nellie Boswell used to call Lilo Lil a 'taaaart', in Bread

Has anyone noticed that Aveline from Bread is now Nurse Clinical Lead in Casualty?
(Sorry, off-topic, well).

Thank you GrannyGravy13 I’m pleased Callistemon isn’t banned.

Doodledog I have heard similar words used using the male genitalia as insults. So not just women but in all other respects women do have a worse time. Even now women are the worst critics of other women.

MissAdventure

Don't worry, I'm sure someone will start another thread on missing posters soon.

Don't worry, I'm sure someone will start another thread on missing posters soon.

It always does. I think if Gransnet just answered the questions it wouldn’t continue but they don’t seem that bothered 🤷‍♀️

How has this thread gone from missing posters to this? 🤔

I don’t think Raynor’s attire if a trouser suit was stereotypically tarty though and that’s where the problem lay as there were further comments about illegitimate children and so on with the implication of having no class.

The working class need representation in parliament, AR is just one of those people 🤷‍♀️

MissAdventure

Those male insults don't pertain to a mans sexual values where I come from.
There isn't a male version, except "man whore", and doesn't that just sound wonderful?
Yet people think its acceptable to fling it around about Rayner.

That's what I was trying to say

biglouis

Tarty is a (mainly working class) adjective which was often thrown about in my native Liverpol when I was younger. I dont know if this is still the case as its 40 years since I lived there. The equivalent insult for a male was to call him a "prick" which carries both sexual and social class connotations. "Oik" and "twat" were two others.

Nellie Boswell used to call Lilo Lil a 'taaaart', in Bread .
I agree it's not an insult that does the insulter any favours.

I disagree that your other examples are the same though. 'Oik' is a snobbish term for state school pupils, I believe. I dare say it is/was more often used against men and boys, as in the days when it was current more males than females were educated. 'Prick' is relatively mild, and just means the same as 'prat' or 'pillock' - it's not the male equivalent of 'tart', as it doesn't have sexual connotations despite its alternative meaning, and anyway those connotations are far less derogatory when applied to a man.

'Twat' is another word that shows the disdain some have for women - much like the 'C word' which uses the female sexual anatomy as the worst thing someone can be called. I know that is different in parts of Scotland, though.