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Winter fuel allowance result

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sharon103 Tue 10-Sept-24 15:36:14

MPs have voted by 348 to 228 in favour of Rachel Reeves’ plan to snatch Winter Fuel Payments of millions of hard-pressed pensioners

Ilovecheese Fri 27-Sept-24 15:04:37

Mollygo

Franbern
that’s a good idea, but the government would have to tackle the energy companies.
They are a much more difficult target than pensioners and have the power to resist having their money taken away from them.

I think you are correct Mollygo they do seem very unwilling to suggest that the companies making huge profits should perhaps chip in a bit more towards the well being of the nation.

Still, as long as the bankers don't have to have their bonuses capped we elderly will have to take one for the team.

I have heard though, that thankfully, they are not going to do away with the council tax discount for single householders, so that is something.

MissAdventure Fri 27-Sept-24 09:22:06

I'm still waiting for an apology due when working tax credit was changed to universal credit, because I lost about £500 a year.

Iam64 Fri 27-Sept-24 09:17:56

Lisaangel10

KS still not able to bring himself to apologise to pensioners about WFA.

I don’t understand why an apology is expected given this is government policy

Grantanow Thu 26-Sept-24 17:21:51

I wish the gifts had not been accepted but it's clear they have been weaponized by the Tory gutter press and used to draw attention away from 14 years of hopeless Tory rule under less than competent Prime Ministers. We need to move on to real policy issues like the NHS and cost of living on which Labour will eventually be judged by the electorate.

MissAdventure Thu 26-Sept-24 09:30:19

Oh yes!
That's the one - I sometimes think that I make things up, and I thought that was one of them.

I'm relieved to know I did actually read it.

Oreo Thu 26-Sept-24 09:28:16

MissAdventure

I think the govt have plans for a new energy system/plan/company.

I'm not sure how it will work for our bills, but it will hopefully include lowering them, along with other strategies.

It’s going to be based in Aberdeen so I read, GB Energy?

Lisaangel10 Thu 26-Sept-24 09:09:43

KS still not able to bring himself to apologise to pensioners about WFA.

MissAdventure Mon 16-Sept-24 10:14:46

I think the govt have plans for a new energy system/plan/company.

I'm not sure how it will work for our bills, but it will hopefully include lowering them, along with other strategies.

Mollygo Mon 16-Sept-24 09:15:52

Franbern
that’s a good idea, but the government would have to tackle the energy companies.
They are a much more difficult target than pensioners and have the power to resist having their money taken away from them.

Franbern Mon 16-Sept-24 08:33:27

I still find it very surprising that everyone is so eager to have a go at Parliament with regards to the WFA, but surely, the real culprits in this is the energy companies. They are charging quite obscene prices, particularly the Sanding Charge, and paying out enormous sums to CO;s and to their share holders. There would beno need of the WGA if fuel charges were very much lower, and this, surely, should be where the real anger should be directed.

Mollygo Mon 16-Sept-24 02:53:51

gentleshores

smile thank you. Can I only add them in my message box or onto the one before? Like a "like"?

You can just put an emoticon in your message box with no comment. The danger with that is however quick you are, other posts may appear before your emoticon.
Better to use the quote facility and add your
😁 👏 💐 😱 then.

Spinnaker Sun 15-Sept-24 23:21:26

TakeThat7

Shouldn't he try to lead by example Does his wife really need expensive clothes that a prime minister can't afford to buy himself for her

But therein lies the rub - he can easily afford it !

gentleshores Sun 15-Sept-24 23:14:32

Why can't she hire them for posh do's like Buckingham Palace?

TakeThat7 Sun 15-Sept-24 21:41:08

Shouldn't he try to lead by example Does his wife really need expensive clothes that a prime minister can't afford to buy himself for her

TakeThat7 Sun 15-Sept-24 21:36:05

If Starmer needs help to get his glasses and buy clothing for his i wife why doesn't he get rid of the TV licence for all those on low inçomes all those who don't watch Bbc just anyone not happy about it Oh and maybe means tested clothing grants If he needs so much why does he not help those with not much

gentleshores Fri 13-Sept-24 17:17:55

smile thank you. Can I only add them in my message box or onto the one before? Like a "like"?

Beechnut Thu 12-Sept-24 20:50:12

If we can laugh at all these memes it should keep us warm.

Lisaangel10 Thu 12-Sept-24 20:04:53

There is a meme circulating showing Starmer and Reeves approaching a couple of well wrapped up Pensioners. The caption is “ We’ve come for your coats.”

Dickens Thu 12-Sept-24 17:27:49

mae13

It's as if our Wonderful Leaders have deliberately sat down and said to each other "OK - which categories of the Great British Public can least withstand our proposal to slash and burn the state support systems? Let's get them by the throat..........but on no account can we touch the rich!"

That sounds a bit too simplistic and over-dramatic, but I think it conveys the idea.

It might be simplistic - and dramatic - but it's nonetheless true.

Labour prefer the easier option. Which is to pretend that there are no others and therefore public-spending has to be, yet again, cut.

It's easier to confront the anger of low-income pensioners than it is to confront the power of Capital. That's why they will not apply any wealth taxes or other measures that might redistribute away from the bloated wealthy towards public services.

Mollygo Thu 12-Sept-24 17:02:09

e.g.(shock) but with square brackets but you see the emoji shock when you preview or post.

Mollygo Thu 12-Sept-24 17:00:36

If you have a smartphone you can add emojis from there.
On GN click on the smiley face under the comment box and it will give you options.
They appear as text in your message e.g. smile but you can see them in the preview.

gentleshores Thu 12-Sept-24 16:46:48

Can someone tell me how you add emojis/smilies on here? I can't seem to work out how.

Mollygo Thu 12-Sept-24 16:36:32

2oaktrees

I heard on the radio that mp's where told if they voted against they would lose their whip

That’s the technique another famous leader used, though not in the Houses of Parliament.
It worked then and it evidently still works now.

mae13 Thu 12-Sept-24 16:11:19

It's as if our Wonderful Leaders have deliberately sat down and said to each other "OK - which categories of the Great British Public can least withstand our proposal to slash and burn the state support systems? Let's get them by the throat..........but on no account can we touch the rich!"

That sounds a bit too simplistic and over-dramatic, but I think it conveys the idea.

2oaktrees Thu 12-Sept-24 16:09:58

I heard on the radio that mp's where told if they voted against they would lose their whip