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The Guardian STILL using that stock photo to illustrate the Winter Fuel Payment row

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mae13 Thu 12-Sept-24 13:25:47

It's about time the photo of an old woman, cup and saucer in hand in front of an electric fire, wearing a SHORT-SLEEVED t-shirt was deleted. Someone needs to tell her to put a nice, cosy cardi on!

GrannyGravy13 Thu 12-Sept-24 13:29:13

I prefer this one

ronib Thu 12-Sept-24 14:11:32

So do I GG13

kittylester Thu 12-Sept-24 15:13:10

And me! It's disgraceful.

Casdon Thu 12-Sept-24 15:45:30

Doris Jones looks like an illustration from the 1960s, I haven’t seen a hat like that on a real person since then.

Babs03 Thu 12-Sept-24 15:49:34

I thought Doris Jones looks more like a character from Dickens. Why not show an elderly person who isn’t a cartoon.

Oreo Thu 12-Sept-24 16:13:43

Never mind the hat being old fashioned, the social/ political cartoon remains a good and true one.

Casdon Thu 12-Sept-24 16:20:18

The thread is about typecasting old people Oreo. The cartoon is as a much typecasting as is the Guardian picture.

Oreo Thu 12-Sept-24 16:25:07

Well they’re hardly going to show a pensioner in a Chanel suit or a cashmere sweater are they? Not when they’re trying to emphasise that many pensioners need help for the Winter months.

BigBopper Thu 12-Sept-24 16:36:28

Oreo

Well they’re hardly going to show a pensioner in a Chanel suit or a cashmere sweater are they? Not when they’re trying to emphasise that many pensioners need help for the Winter months.

OREO....... You have got the wrong end of the stick.

What Mael 13 meant was that the old lady is sitting on top of a fire wearing a SHORT sleeved top. If she was that cold she would be wearing a thick jumper with long sleeves.

People should think about the post before jumping on the wrong bandwaggon.

Casdon Thu 12-Sept-24 16:36:59

Agreed, but showing a pensioner from the sixties isn’t exactly current, is it.

BigBopper Thu 12-Sept-24 16:38:19

It seems that every single poster above has misunderstood Mael13's post.

She was pointing out that the picture showed a lady wearing a short sleeved top sitting on top of the fire when she should have been wearing a long sleeved jumper.

BigBopper Thu 12-Sept-24 16:39:14

Casdon

Agreed, but showing a pensioner from the sixties isn’t exactly current, is it.

That has nothing to do with it, it is just a picture, you got the wrong end of the stick.

Witzend Thu 12-Sept-24 16:41:12

Babs03

I thought Doris Jones looks more like a character from Dickens. Why not show an elderly person who isn’t a cartoon.

Hear hear!

maddyone Thu 12-Sept-24 16:55:02

Whilst I agree that people need to wear appropriate clothing in the winter months, I believe that the real reason people become too cold is because the air they are breathing is too cold. Air temperature is the key to keeping warm and not becoming hypothermic. Obviously people should wear warm clothing and have hot drinks and heated blankets etc. But breathing warm air is key.

I like the cartoon GG13. Doris maybe old fashioned, but the point is clear.

Incidentally one of my grandmothers wore a knitted hat indoors during the winter time.

BigBopper Thu 12-Sept-24 17:01:31

maddyone

Whilst I agree that people need to wear appropriate clothing in the winter months, I believe that the real reason people become too cold is because the air they are breathing is too cold. Air temperature is the key to keeping warm and not becoming hypothermic. Obviously people should wear warm clothing and have hot drinks and heated blankets etc. But breathing warm air is key.

I like the cartoon GG13. Doris maybe old fashioned, but the point is clear.

Incidentally one of my grandmothers wore a knitted hat indoors during the winter time.

Then perhaps the lady in the photo should have been wearing a long sleeve jumper and NOT a short sleeve one.

It does not matter which era the picture depicts, the picture that was shown was showing an old lady suffering with cold but not having the common sense to be wearing a long sleeve jumper.

maddyone Thu 12-Sept-24 17:07:06

I didn’t see the picture, but perhaps you will recollect (as you only read my post a few minutes ago) that I said that people should

wear appropriate clothing

I think that covered the short sleeved jumper. A short sleeved jumper is not appropriate!

maddyone Thu 12-Sept-24 17:09:20

Incidentally, medically, the air temperature is what is most important. That’s why people who are wearing clothing entirely suitable for mountaineering still suffer from hypothermia if they become lost or stuck!
The air temperature!

eazybee Thu 12-Sept-24 17:19:28

I like the shot showing the incomes of a pensioner and Rachel Reeves, plus the fact she is able, and does, claim an energy allowance.
That is the point to be made.

AGAA4 Thu 12-Sept-24 17:20:20

The message in the picture posted by GG13 was clear enough. Doesn't matter that that the pensioner looked like someone from the 50s.

Oreo Thu 12-Sept-24 17:24:20

maddyone

Incidentally, medically, the air temperature is what is most important. That’s why people who are wearing clothing entirely suitable for mountaineering still suffer from hypothermia if they become lost or stuck!
The air temperature!

That’s interesting, didn’t know that.

Oreo Thu 12-Sept-24 17:24:40

eazybee

I like the shot showing the incomes of a pensioner and Rachel Reeves, plus the fact she is able, and does, claim an energy allowance.
That is the point to be made.

Exactly.

AGAA4 Thu 12-Sept-24 19:30:04

It can be dangerous for older people to get too cold as blood thickens and can lead to heart attack and stroke.

Babs03 Thu 12-Sept-24 20:48:44

One big woolly jumper is not as warm as layers, so a long sleeved tee shirt under a jumper with a cardigan on top is much better. Also thick woolly socks, personally if my feet are cold I feel cold altogether.

ronib Thu 12-Sept-24 21:03:24

Thermal underwear is essential