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BlueBelle Fri 20-Sept-24 11:05:36

An artist has displayed a picture of a nude lady with her legs akimbo in her new gallery window
She has had a lot of complaints and visits from the police
What’s your thoughts on this one? seems public opinion is divided
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c206e5qx82do

Wyllow3 Sat 21-Sept-24 12:59:13

Until the 20th century the representation of nude women by male artists were as objects, prostitute or idealised beauty - then with the growth of women being recognised as artists a movement grew up to "Tell it like it is" from a woman's POV - real women, real bodies, real sexuality in many shapes or forms - some you might, some you might not find palatable, some very abstract, some very well done craft wise, others not.

MissAdventure Sat 21-Sept-24 12:52:35

I think she just shows women as they really are, as all humans are.
Not godesses, or particularly beautiful, with bodies that have veins, and blood and misshapen bits.

NotSpaghetti Sat 21-Sept-24 12:50:02

I think menstruation is a subject that divides people but is no longer taboo.

There is an artist in Spain (can't remember her name) who uses menstrual blood as the medium she paints with.

There is a lot of it about now. My work is textiles and I've seen quite a few examples Crossstitchfan - there are even artists working in crosstitch (and other stitches) ...

factoronto.tumblr.com/post/153176695050/meet-the-artists-fac-2017-michelle-gauthier

Crossstitchfan Sat 21-Sept-24 12:29:03

MissAdventure

I think I saw this painter and some of her work on TV, a couple of months ago.

She also paints menstruating images, such as a woman with blood running down her legs, and so on, as well as women who have cellulite, blotches, ugly veins,bulbous breaststroke, and all the other things we all have, to some extent.

Really? Well, quite apart from the fact that I hate the painting, the thought of her having painted one showing what you have described turns my stomach.
Is there something wrong with the artist?
I can’t see how any normal person would paint menstruation in any form. The thought disgusts me and I truly am not a prude. Nude images are fine as a rule, but not this woman’s.

Wyllow3 Sat 21-Sept-24 12:04:44

Oreo

Doodledog

Hebden Bridge is known for its lesbian population. I’m not sure that that picture would necessarily be a hit with that demographic though grin.

Who knows?
A picture is emerging for this mysterious town😄

Since its a major artistic community I expect the population of Hebden Bridge to be generally more understanding of the ins and outs of conceptual art (ie art making a point as opposed to being photographically-style representational).
I would have thought that as to subject matter and women there will be the same disagreements, I dont see why being gay would make a difference.

Whiff Sat 21-Sept-24 11:35:56

No problem with seeing private parts painted. But it's an awful painting . If it had been by a better artist it wouldn't have caused a stir. Seen better amateur artist nudes like that .

NotSpaghetti Sat 21-Sept-24 11:35:11

TheWierdo
I could go to the local nursery and get 3 year olds to do a far better picture!

- I think if you commissioned 3 year olds to paint this, questions would be asked...

Purplepixie Sat 21-Sept-24 11:34:16

NO problem here. We are all made the same so why the fuss?

TheWeirdo Sat 21-Sept-24 11:29:13

UGH!

TheWeirdo Sat 21-Sept-24 11:28:10

I think the entire thing is absolutely hideous! I won't be commissioning her to do anything for me!

I could go to the local nursery and get 3 year olds to do a far better picture!

Oreo Sat 21-Sept-24 11:26:46

Doodledog

Hebden Bridge is known for its lesbian population. I’m not sure that that picture would necessarily be a hit with that demographic though grin.

Who knows?
A picture is emerging for this mysterious town😄

Doodledog Sat 21-Sept-24 11:21:17

Hebden Bridge is known for its lesbian population. I’m not sure that that picture would necessarily be a hit with that demographic though grin.

Esmay Sat 21-Sept-24 11:18:37

NotSpaghetti -I'm glad that you didn't post a certain artwork by Schiele -
I wonder what the response would have been !
I just looked on Etsy and there's plenty of stuff that would have been considered to be pornographic years ago .
Attitudes change with time .

NotSpaghetti Sat 21-Sept-24 09:56:01

In a dream Egon Schiele, 1911. (In the Met collection)

For reference.

Esmay Sat 21-Sept-24 05:56:52

Deedaa -I forgot about Egon Schiele -his work was really explicit .
His work was deeply shocking in the thirties .
I wonder how it would have developed had he not died prematurely .

Oreo - I have relatives in Hay and Hebden Bridge and have lived in both places -so I've based my comments on my experiences .
They are both loved by me !

Wyllow3 Sat 21-Sept-24 01:03:57

I think this picture is very derivative - and doesn't do what she thinks it does in her own words, not sure why she got a solo show - except I cant find any pix of her other work.

NotSpaghetti Sat 21-Sept-24 00:27:44

Here's another article about it:

www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2024/sep/20/police-called-to-hay-on-wye-gallery-after-it-puts-painting-of-naked-woman-in-window

She is apparently a 3rd year at Central St. Martins so may have a lot of backing given the staff and alumni.
I expect she is just one of many there though!

David49 Fri 20-Sept-24 22:54:55

Allsorts

If a man had done that think of the reaction. She is sexually objectifying a woman and it us not a good painting anyway.. Don't give up the day job.

She got noticed, it’s a shame that it’s not a very good painting, go out and get a proper job love.

Don’t compare sharing photos with an abstract painting

Mollygo Fri 20-Sept-24 22:47:43

Allsorts

If a man had done that think of the reaction. She is sexually objectifying a woman and it us not a good painting anyway.. Don't give up the day job.

Very good points Allsorts.

Allsorts Fri 20-Sept-24 22:32:43

If a man had done that think of the reaction. She is sexually objectifying a woman and it us not a good painting anyway.. Don't give up the day job.

Allira Fri 20-Sept-24 22:30:15

Hay-on-Wye:
C2,000 residents
C80,000 visitors

Elegran Fri 20-Sept-24 22:14:15

Grandmabatty

Buses. Flip! Should say nudes!😂

I thought that what you meant to type was busts!

NotSpaghetti Fri 20-Sept-24 21:56:23

I love Hebden Bridge!

Wyllow3 Fri 20-Sept-24 21:45:55

Hebden Bridge not Hendon.

Wyllow3 Fri 20-Sept-24 21:45:22

Hendon Bridge is an old mill town to the north of Manchester, quite picturesque with a canal running through. In the 1970's it was the place to go for cheap alternative living including young artists and gradually over the years turned into a trendy place to commute to Manchester from and to visit for art/cafes/walks. Also one of the locations for Happy Valley.