PM accepted £20,000 so his boy could study

oops wrong topic

He wasn't. His son (Starmer) studied in said house and the value that was put on that was £20K, which seems arbitrary but ........ In effect a person let another person's son use his accommodation so the son could study as home was too noisy. I am not trying to defend Starmer but is this really a story?

Anniebach

Quote Allira Thu 26-Sep-24 10:42:44
MissAdventure
Oh...
That is a recurring nightmare for me.
Being asked to look after Fluffy and Tiddles while someone is away, and finding out, once I'm in the house with them, that they are lions.
Worse still is looking after someone's cat when they away on holiday and the worst happens.
One dead moggy to dispose of.

Worse still, looking after the pet hamster of your daughter class
room for school holidays, hamster dies, cannot be replaced
because he is a three legged hamster

😁

Did you not know that hamsters are related to salamanders and their legs miraculously regrow?

Cossy

foxie48

"How many people not in Government or on official government business have a pass to No 10 Downing Street?"

We have absolutely no idea how many people over the years have been given a temporary pass. We do know Lord Alli had one (authorised by Sue Gray) as he was organising an event to thank LP donors for their donations and it had been returned weeks ago, there is absolutely no evidence the temporary pass was in any way linked to his generosity to Starmer or others.

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I dread to think who may or may not had had passes during BJ dubious reign!

It's impossible to know, this sort of information comes into the public domain via leaks. As far as I am concerned the issue is was Sue Gray entitled to give Lord Alli a temporary pass? If she was that's the end of the story, if she wasn't then what sanction is there.

foxie48

"How many people not in Government or on official government business have a pass to No 10 Downing Street?"

We have absolutely no idea how many people over the years have been given a temporary pass. We do know Lord Alli had one (authorised by Sue Gray) as he was organising an event to thank LP donors for their donations and it had been returned weeks ago, there is absolutely no evidence the temporary pass was in any way linked to his generosity to Starmer or others.

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I dread to think who may or may not had had passes during BJ dubious reign!

MissAdventure

Annie

"Worse still, looking after the pet hamster of your daughter class
room for school holidays, hamster dies, cannot be replaced
because he is a three legged hamster"

That has absolutely made my day!!!!!!

Mine too, thought it reminded me of a primary childhood friend who brought home three school gerbils for the summer, their (not very nice) Siamese cat managed to get into their room, open the cage and murder them!

But they did all look the same and all had four legs so Mum replaced them!

"How many people not in Government or on official government business have a pass to No 10 Downing Street?"

We have absolutely no idea how many people over the years have been given a temporary pass. We do know Lord Alli had one (authorised by Sue Gray) as he was organising an event to thank LP donors for their donations and it had been returned weeks ago, there is absolutely no evidence the temporary pass was in any way linked to his generosity to Starmer or others.

Annie

"Worse still, looking after the pet hamster of your daughter class
room for school holidays, hamster dies, cannot be replaced
because he is a three legged hamster"

That has absolutely made my day!!!!!!

Allira

If you’re referring to Lord Alli, he had a temporary pass, now no longer has it and it appears it’s not that unusual.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c86l7xqzze8o.amp

Quote Allira Thu 26-Sep-24 10:42:44
MissAdventure
Oh...
That is a recurring nightmare for me.
Being asked to look after Fluffy and Tiddles while someone is away, and finding out, once I'm in the house with them, that they are lions.
Worse still is looking after someone's cat when they away on holiday and the worst happens.
One dead moggy to dispose of.

Worse still, looking after the pet hamster of your daughter class
room for school holidays, hamster dies, cannot be replaced
because he is a three legged hamster

This makes quite interesting reading.

Donations per se for the GE are pretty much equal for the two main parties.

www.electoralcommission.org.uk/media-centre/political-parties-accept-ps22m-donations-first-quarter-2024

MissAdventure

Oh...
That is a recurring nightmare for me.
Being asked to look after Fluffy and Tiddles while someone is away, and finding out, once I'm in the house with them, that they are lions.

Worse still is looking after someone's cat when they away on holiday and the worst happens.
One dead moggy to dispose of.

I can't see why it is a big deal. We used to have a holiday place on the coast, more than once we've lent it to a friend who needed a break. Lord Ali just has posher places than we do.

foxie48

Surely we all do lots of things, which potentially have a monetary value, for our friends. We have a self contained granny flat which has been empty since Mil died which I've lent to friends foc on several occasions. I've got the OH of a friend living there ATM whilst they are sorting their marriage out, I don't want money from them, I just want to help them. These comments about Lord Alli makes me wonder about people's attitudes to "friendship" especially when it's said that he must expect something in return. Does everyone expect "something in return" when they help a friend because I don't! Lord Alli has been a supporter of the LP for over 30 years, he's close friends with Starmer and others, he's very active in fund raising for the party tbh it seems quite natural to me that he would offer somewhere out of the media glare for Starmer's family to be, regardless of exams or not. It's what friend's do if they can.

How many people not in Government or on official government business have a pass to No 10 Downing Street?
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Perhaps if Starmer had not accepted all the other freebies - this would be a bit of a non-story?

A gift that wouldn’t have been available to me or you unless we paid £20,000

I doubt that me or you would have hoards of journalists and protesters camped noisily outside our home!

If I’d been in his position with my son studying for his GCSEs and needing to get to his school, I’d have done the same … wouldn’t you?

All he did was use the apartment of a friend, away from the press intrusion. I’ve stayed in my friend’s apartment in Spain, free of charge. Fortunately I didn’t have to declare it on a register as KS rightly did. The amount of £20,000 was an estimate of how much it would have cost to rent the apartment.

That’s it … a non story, blown up by the media and deliberately misleading headlines, and seized upon with relish by social media.

He is a father, protecting his son - how terrible is that!

Doodledog

I'm going to have words with my son - I don't think he realises what he owes me for those socks.

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I'm going to have words with my son - I don't think he realises what he owes me for those socks.

Surely we all do lots of things, which potentially have a monetary value, for our friends. We have a self contained granny flat which has been empty since Mil died which I've lent to friends foc on several occasions. I've got the OH of a friend living there ATM whilst they are sorting their marriage out, I don't want money from them, I just want to help them. These comments about Lord Alli makes me wonder about people's attitudes to "friendship" especially when it's said that he must expect something in return. Does everyone expect "something in return" when they help a friend because I don't! Lord Alli has been a supporter of the LP for over 30 years, he's close friends with Starmer and others, he's very active in fund raising for the party tbh it seems quite natural to me that he would offer somewhere out of the media glare for Starmer's family to be, regardless of exams or not. It's what friend's do if they can.

You would be surprised.
His contemporaries, and some of the teachers, (but perhaps not, as he is Labour.)
Saw it with a few of the younger teachers at the Grammar schools with the children of the Conservative MP.

MissAdventure

Oh...
That is a recurring nightmare for me.
Being asked to look after Fluffy and Tiddles while someone is away, and finding out, once I'm in the house with them, that they are lions.

Mine is being asked to look after someone else’s pets and they escape or die whilst in my care!

Oh...
That is a recurring nightmare for me.
Being asked to look after Fluffy and Tiddles while someone is away, and finding out, once I'm in the house with them, that they are lions.

@Iam 64, I'm abroad this month and friends are staying at my coastal property in the UK. Free of charge of course. The catch is, that they have to look after the psycho cat! 😻
Perhaps Lord Alli has pet snakes to feed? 😁

I sometimes (rarely) knit for friends and family.

If I decided to knit for sale, and to charge £500 an hour for doing so, even though I had no customers liked up, does that mean that the pair of socks I made for my son are worth £10,000, and that he has accepted a donation of that amount?