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Are English People Very Loud?

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Vintagejazz Thu 26-Sept-24 14:24:32

I'm on holidays at the moment staying at a small apartment block in Spain. There is a communal garden and pool around which our balconies are grouped. It's normally lovely and quiet, just people snoozing on sunbeds, reading on balconies or swimming in the pool. But as soon as snoozing English couple emergency from their apartment they can be heard everywhere. "TREV, HAVE YOU REMEMBERED THE WATER?" "LYNSEY, YOUR PHONE IS HERE". "OK ARE WE AGREED THEN? WE'LL MEET AT THE RESTAURANT AT SEVEN"?

The English used to be known for being reserved and speaking in quiet tones in public. What happened?

gentleshores Tue 01-Oct-24 00:01:37

I think as mentioned above, Brits abroad are different to at home - but it depends on the people. I spent some time in France and saw both English and American people being extremely disrespectful and ignorant to French waiters and receptionists etc. Talking to them in English and making signs as if they were idiots who didn't understand. I had a good chuckle on one occasion as I watched a man come in and say to the receptionist DO YOU HAVE FOOD? And pointed his finger in his mouth. The receptionist (who I knew spoke very good English) pretended he didn't understand and ignored him.

I've also come across many people who say the French are rude. They're not - and they like it if you at least attempt to speak a little bit in French or smile and be respectful. Or at least learn "Excuse me do you speak English" in French before launching into loud English and sign language!

I think a lot of uncivilised Brits go on holiday and treat people of other nationalities atrociously - especially if they're waiters!

However I did see quite a few Americans getting the run around by some French. I felt sorry for them.

Wheniwasyourage Mon 30-Sept-24 11:45:36

That sounds horrible, Whiff. Stay loud! flowers

Whiff Mon 30-Sept-24 06:02:43

I didn't realise I was loud until my daughter pointed it out. But I had lived alone for a decade by then and when you live on your own and dealing with family members who's hearing isn't very good even with hearing aids I needed to be loud. I didn't realise I still did it .
Now another decade on I can still be loud and not realise it . But I don't do it on purpose it's just me.

I used to have seizures which took my speech for few hours . First time it happened I didn't realise I wasn't talking as in my mind I was . It was terrifying not speaking . I know I can still be loud and try not to be but it's better than not being able to speak and not knowing if I would ever speak again .

Mitzigem Mon 30-Sept-24 05:47:32

I’ve just been holidaying in the uk . A self driving tour with my husband from London to the south east coast . The major cities were like most cities but I distinctly recall my thoughts that the English are a very quiet and polite people . Visiting portobello market in particular it felt eerily quiet . I’m from Melbourne and believe me the crowds here seem to have their volume up much higher .

nanna8 Mon 30-Sept-24 03:01:47

Queensland Aussies can be loud. Especially in Bali!

NotSpaghetti Sat 28-Sept-24 08:29:46

Maybe that's why I love Italy Pantglas2!

Pantglas2 Fri 27-Sept-24 22:12:50

We’ve recently sold our little Casa in inland Spain after over a decade of lovely months amongst Spanish neighbours with barely a sentence of English between them.

I’m not complaining ( Welsh speaker from north Wales….) and over the years came to understand that their natural conversation was loud, in your face and accompanied by lots of gestures.

Can we not accommodate cultural differences?

Vintagejazz Fri 27-Sept-24 22:04:50

They're not hoi polloi or whatever. In general, if we're in a restaurant or sitting out on our balcony and we start to hear loud noise and shouted conversations it's inevitably English people who are creating the racket. Nothing to do with class, just loud English accents shouting their opinions and business all over the place. Of course it's not exclusively English people, but the vast majority of the time it is so.

JaneJudge Fri 27-Sept-24 21:52:21

They only spoke about water and a table being booked 😂

petra Fri 27-Sept-24 21:44:06

I’m surprised that these hoi polloi holidayed in northern Spain, usually so civilised.
I know the area very well. Obviously standards have dropped.

Jaxjacky Fri 27-Sept-24 21:32:12

Loud mouth yobbos and hooray henries, goodness me, what a judgmental lot.
Plenty of nationalities can be ‘loud’ I wouldn’t generalise, having heard some people with louder voices above the general conversational hum in many countries.
Some areas can be particularly echoey in holiday resorts too, maybe ear plugs would help you block it out OP

Esmay Fri 27-Sept-24 21:18:04

NotSpaghetti .
When I see you I'll switch my hearing aids off ! grin

biglouis Fri 27-Sept-24 21:17:24

In the past I believe it was a matter of responsible parenting. Well brought up children (including working class children) were taught to be quiet and keep their voices down. Now with this fashion for so called "gentle" parenting (or rather lazy parenting) children are not disciplined and many of them grow of into loud mouthed yobbos.

crazyH Fri 27-Sept-24 21:06:24

That’s rich coming from someone who calls herself Flappergirl
😂

petra Fri 27-Sept-24 20:59:35

flappergirl

I'm going to get totally flamed for this but Trev and Lyndsey are highly unlikely to "naice" middle class types.

That’s rich coming from someone who calls herself Flappergirl

Vintagejazz Fri 27-Sept-24 20:52:47

NotSpaghetti

Where are you Vintagejazz?

Northern part of Spain.

JaneJudge Fri 27-Sept-24 20:38:23

NotSpaghetti

Where are you Vintagejazz?

Benidorm as ppl have already decided they are working class

JaneJudge Fri 27-Sept-24 20:37:05

It doesn’t really sound a disturbing conversation.

Maybe it’s to do with having to pay for hearing tests? So people being so terribly polite just pretend they don’t have hearing loss

Tenko Fri 27-Sept-24 19:54:35

I think there are loud personalities in all nationalities.
I don’t know where the op is but I try and avoid places popular with brits . I don’t go on holiday to meet fellow brits. I like meeting the locals and meeting other nationalities.

Allira Fri 27-Sept-24 19:45:50

flappergirl

I'm going to get totally flamed for this but Trev and Lyndsey are highly unlikely to "naice" middle class types.

Ooh!
My cousin Trevor might be the exception to your rule, then.

As for Lyndsey, my God-daughter, she's a solicitor so perhaps has to speak more loudly to some clients who may not understand the finer points of law.

flappergirl Fri 27-Sept-24 19:42:22

I'm going to get totally flamed for this but Trev and Lyndsey are highly unlikely to "naice" middle class types.

Allira Fri 27-Sept-24 19:37:12

Vintagejazz

Still noticing it here. It's always an English accent when you hear a loud group in a restaurant or people shouting across balconies.

It could be me speaking loudly to DH.
He will not admit he has a hearing problem.

Babs03 Fri 27-Sept-24 19:19:32

I also think that sound travels on hotel or apartment complexes, so a loud conversation that might not be heard when at home will certainly be heard if had upon a balcony in a complex. I remember being in a hotel room where we could hear the couple next door's toilet habits and bedroom habits. The latter being particularly loud. Thankfully we were only there for one night.

NotSpaghetti Fri 27-Sept-24 19:18:01

Where are you Vintagejazz?

Vintagejazz Fri 27-Sept-24 19:13:30

Still noticing it here. It's always an English accent when you hear a loud group in a restaurant or people shouting across balconies.