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The Queen and domestic violence

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RosiesMaw2 Mon 11-Nov-24 21:52:03

Tonight on ITV1
Didn't quite know where to put this but very impressed, not to say moved by Camilla's dedication to this cause and her empathy and kindness talking to workers and victims. She shows a humane and mature understanding of the problem and a realistic and down to earth ability to relate to the women in this position. Well done Camilla!

00opsidia Wed 13-Nov-24 01:11:15

Well done Camilla Queen, I still think of The Queen as reigning. Its hard that she is gone, butIm proud of Camilla.

Shelflife Wed 13-Nov-24 00:17:52

Well done Queen Camilla!
In response the those who ' say' "Queen Elizabeth would never have done that" of course she wouldn't she was the monarch! - Camilla is' nt!!

Jaxjacky Tue 12-Nov-24 20:14:19

I watched this earlier, very moving, well done Camilla.

JaneJudge Tue 12-Nov-24 20:06:23

Actually with young people it’s not about discipline but boundaries. Clear guidance and boundaries work much better than discipline. It’s just not consistent enough in most cases

David49 Tue 12-Nov-24 19:50:05

It’s all about “respect” many children don't respect parents, teachers, police, or any kind of authority, certainly not women.
There is no chance of any change because there is a generation of parents with exactly the same attitude, who will obstruct any attempt to instil discipline.

Kate1949 Tue 12-Nov-24 17:35:17

Thank you Greenfinch. I survived (just about). No love in our house that's for sure.

Greenfinch Tue 12-Nov-24 17:31:02

That is so awful Kate.To trust and receive love and not violence from a father is every child’s right. Well done for surviving.

Kate1949 Tue 12-Nov-24 17:17:21

My mother and older sister bore the brunt of my father's violence but he beat me up badly when I was about 11. I had to have weeks off school

Galaxy Tue 12-Nov-24 17:09:25

I agree I dont think domestic violence is a political issue. There isnt a group of people who are pro domestic violence unless you count the abusers themselves.

AGAA4 Tue 12-Nov-24 17:00:48

The discipline should start in the home. If fathers are violent towards their wives boys will probably grow up to be violent too.
I remember my brother hit me when I was about eight. My mum punished him by not allowing him out to play football but she also explained that because he was bigger and stronger than females that he could do some damage. He never hit me or my sister again.
By the time they are young men it is too late.

David49 Tue 12-Nov-24 15:35:52

Realistically 90% of the abuse is men abusing women in some way, it shouldn't happen, the only way you are going to stop it is to impose much more discipline on boys and young men.
Encourage women to report it of course, give men a caution for low level abuse, further complaints get harsh penalties.

I really dont believe that effective action to educate and discipline young men is going to taken, the penalty system is just too soft.

Kate1949 Tue 12-Nov-24 14:49:56

I watched a recent documentary about a man who was horrifically abused by his wife, often in front of their small children. He was a broken man. She was, I believe, a prison governor.

Dickens Tue 12-Nov-24 14:44:23

JaneJudge

Men were mentioned too but the program was to highlight violence in its many forms, against women.

Precisely.

This is about violence perpetrated against women.

I understand that domestic violence against either sex is abhorrent but violence perpetrated by men against women is a different metric.

I would like to see a movement that supports men who are abused by their spouses (be they men or women) - but one thing that would have to be challenged is the very attitude by both men and women who, not infrequently, make light of such abuse and probably is one of the reasons why men feel ashamed to talk about it or report it.

I know a middle-aged man who is abused both physically and mentally by his elderly mother. How would society react to that largely, other than to say that he could by his sheer physical strength, put a stop to it. But that is the point. He wouldn't do that - he can't do that - and so he puts up with it out of shame and guilt. And it's horrific.

Men though suffer from abuse for different reasons I think, I don't really know.

Camilla cannot take on both.

eazybee Tue 12-Nov-24 13:11:58

Perhaps it will not become a political issue because Queen Camilla is involved.

MissInterpreted Tue 12-Nov-24 13:02:44

JaneJudge

Men were mentioned too but the program was to highlight violence in its many forms, against women.

I do appreciate that. I know only too well the toll which domestic violence can take. I'm just pointing out that it's not only women and children who can be the victims - and it's well known that men who do report cases of domestic abuse are only the tip of the iceberg. Many suffer in silence because they are ashamed. Domestic violence is loathsome, no matter who the victim or victims are.

JaneJudge Tue 12-Nov-24 12:58:48

Men were mentioned too but the program was to highlight violence in its many forms, against women.

MissInterpreted Tue 12-Nov-24 12:55:18

Let's not forget that men can be the victims of domestic abuse too.

Norah Tue 12-Nov-24 12:53:55

Well done Queen Camilla.

Kate1949 Tue 12-Nov-24 12:44:21

Unless you hav experienced domestic violence, which I have, not my husband but my father, you cannot fully understand the horror and fear in the house. I am glad this is being highlighted.

JaneJudge Tue 12-Nov-24 12:33:08

it is a very moving documentary

granfromafar Tue 12-Nov-24 12:32:26

I found the documentary very moving, and had tears running down my face when some of the women were relating their harrowing stories. Do watch on itvx if you missed it.

Anniebach Tue 12-Nov-24 12:29:41

Queen Camilla doesn’t make unofficial visits surrounded by cameras she makes documentaries which draw attention to the
Subject, be it domestic abuse, reading for children,animal
Welfare.
Charles did the same when he launched The Princes Trust Many years ago.
The Duchess of Kent did much she worked for the Samaritans.
Through the winter of discontent she delivered meals on wheels and then continue to do so for sometime she also
was by the involved with hospice care

AGAA4 Tue 12-Nov-24 12:11:07

What a good cause for Queen Camilla to be involved in. Because of her status people will take notice of a problem that has been ignored for far too long. Too many women have died or are suffering.

Dickens Tue 12-Nov-24 11:46:42

David49

Very brave but could get very political, can you imagine Queen Elizabeth spearheading a campaign like this?.

The late Queen was old school. Brought up in a different era, a different world.

She did what she had to do, so I think probably the answer is 'no'.

But I doubt she had any sympathy for violent domestic abusers either.

flappergirl Tue 12-Nov-24 11:16:42

"Some of the credit for getting involved in gritty causes has to go to Diana".

Good grief, only some of the credit! She led the way and showed the royal family in a very poor light. All of the credit goes to Diana.