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TopGunner Thu 21-Nov-24 09:31:31

I was watching a talk show this morning and one of the debates was about re-instating the winter fuel allowance. One of the people who called up to speak to the panel was saying that she was recently widowed and now lived alone in a large house with only one state pension and a small private pension income from her late husband but she was just outside of the threshold to claim income support.

One of the panels advice was for her to sell her home and buy a smaller one. The lady was 81 years of age and had lived in her home since she was married many years ago. She said that when her husband was alive there was two state pensions and her husbands full private pension of which she now gets a small portion. She told the panel that there was no way she could afford to sell her house as they had used much of their savings when her husband was ill to buy medical equipment and keep the heating on 24 hours a day because of his illness.

She also said that heating a house for one costs the same as heating it for a family. She said she canno claim income support as she is abocve the threshold for claiming benefits.

I totally understand what the lady is saying because she could have been speaking about me. I live in a large detached house, get a state pension and a portion of my late husband's private pension and pay tax on it as well. I am also just above the threshold for pension credit so cannot claim any benefits at all.

My question is, why are we being told to downsize our homes, I love my home, I have been here since we married in the 1960's and raised a family here, my home is my heart, when I go out and go back home again I breathe a sigh of relief because I am back where I belong as I am surrounded by my memories. Also I am 84 years of age and could not do with the stress of moving.

I can manage on my income, that is not the point, the point is, why are we being told to sell our homes, get something smaller so we can afford to pay our energy and food bills.

theworriedwell Sat 23-Nov-24 16:05:29

Allira

theworriedwell

MissAdventure

My kitchen is past being spruced up, really.
I've painted the doors, added knobs, used sticky black plastic to cover the window ledge.

It has huge gaping gaps, holes in the backs of the cupboards.
The stop cock is only accessible by pulling out the cooker, crawling behind it, disconnecting it then crawling behind the washing machine...

Oh I'm sorry, thought it might be a useful idea. I hope I'm not rubbing salt in the wound when I say my knobs have arrived, DH was slightly bemused that I was so excited about new knobs. They look great, teenage grandson has given me approval for my choices. Can't wait for the sink and tap now.

I hope you get your kitchen and bathroom, a nice kitchen and bathroom are such nice things to have.

Could a plumber relocate the stop cock, perhaps into the cupboard under the sink, to make it more accessible?

We're getting quotes for a new kitchen, also new doors and worktops plus deep drawers instead of a whole refit.

It would still be totally disruptive!

That's a good idea, I remember my DD had the stopcock moved in her house to make it more convenient.

Allira Sat 23-Nov-24 16:08:20

theworriedwell

Allira

theworriedwell

MissAdventure

My kitchen is past being spruced up, really.
I've painted the doors, added knobs, used sticky black plastic to cover the window ledge.

It has huge gaping gaps, holes in the backs of the cupboards.
The stop cock is only accessible by pulling out the cooker, crawling behind it, disconnecting it then crawling behind the washing machine...

Oh I'm sorry, thought it might be a useful idea. I hope I'm not rubbing salt in the wound when I say my knobs have arrived, DH was slightly bemused that I was so excited about new knobs. They look great, teenage grandson has given me approval for my choices. Can't wait for the sink and tap now.

I hope you get your kitchen and bathroom, a nice kitchen and bathroom are such nice things to have.

Could a plumber relocate the stop cock, perhaps into the cupboard under the sink, to make it more accessible?

We're getting quotes for a new kitchen, also new doors and worktops plus deep drawers instead of a whole refit.

It would still be totally disruptive!

That's a good idea, I remember my DD had the stopcock moved in her house to make it more convenient.

It needs to be accessible in case you need to turn it off in a hurry, MissAdventure

Ours is in the downstairs loo.

MissAdventure Sat 23-Nov-24 16:10:49

Yes, I'm sure a plumber could move the stopcock.
I also have an issue with washing machine placement.

It has to slot in too close to a cupboard, meaning I often can't open the cupboard, or the detergent door of the machine.

I have to try and pull the machine away an inch or two, then it moves back when it's washing and spinning.

It's scraped paint off the edge of the door, and the door has made dents in the washing machine door. Sigh...

Now, if I had a little money to throw at these problems, they could be sorted out, once and for all.

It's beginning to cost me more in bodge jobs as each year passes.

theworriedwell Sat 23-Nov-24 16:20:41

Sorry to hear that, the sort of problems that are so annoying. I hope you can get it sorted but a new kitchen is expensive isn't it. DH is very relieved about what I've done as I was definitely thinking of a new kitchen.

MissAdventure Sat 23-Nov-24 16:32:39

Well, I've lived here for 30 odd years, so I suppose another few won't hurt smile
I had vague ideas about fitting a kitchen myself, but that isn't going to happen, now.

At least I'm warm and dry, that's the main thing.

melp1 Sat 23-Nov-24 16:50:13

We recently moved and the cost was around £7000 not £20,000 as Karmalady mentioned. Solicitors, Estate Agent, Removals and Stamp duty. I guess it depends how much the house your buying is, ours was £300,000. I guess if you want to start putting in new kitchens/bathrooms, carpets decorating it would cost more but if you stayed in the old house you would probably have to upgrade at some point.

Elegran Sat 23-Nov-24 16:56:58

You may be able to fix your washing machine by screwing a strip of wood to the floor in a position that stops it moving towards the cupboard while it is spinning The hardest part of that would be moving the machine out and in again.

Paperbackwriter Sat 23-Nov-24 16:59:02

"I have never voted Labour in my life despite thinking that John Major and Gordon Brown could run rings round the bunch of incompetents that currently grace the front bench."

buffyfly9 - Er.. John Major was Conservative.

MissAdventure Sat 23-Nov-24 17:03:48

Good thinking, Elegran.
Except I'd have to find someone else to do it.
Hmmmm... worth a thought, though. smile

Katyj Sat 23-Nov-24 17:14:58

I do wish people could think ahead more though. Stairs for the elderly can be lethal. My parents lived in a first floor flat modified for the disabled as my dad had a stroke aged 56.
He sadly fell down the stairs aged 70. We think he passed out trying to get on the stairlift, he suffered another stroke. Mum also fell down the same stairs aged 89 she was looking out of the landing window, passed out and fell the full length of the stairs and suffered a brain haemorrhage, she was never the same again. Neither of them could be persuaded to move.
Every time I had to call an ambulance the paramedics complained bitterly about the stairs and access even though they were normal size steps . So much angst, because of stubbornness.

NotSpaghetti Sat 23-Nov-24 17:56:23

CariadAgain and othets:

There is a 0.0012 % chance of a passenger electric vehicle battery catching fire. In contrast, the chance of an internal combustion engine vehicle setting on fire is 0.1%.

Here's a Guardian article about it:

www.theguardian.com/business/2023/nov/20/do-electric-cars-pose-a-greater-fire-risk-than-petrol-or-diesel-vehicles#:~:text=It%20found%20there%20was%20a,for%20internal%20combustion%20engine%20cars.

CariadAgain Sat 23-Nov-24 18:55:48

NotSpaghetti

CariadAgain and othets:

There is a 0.0012 % chance of a passenger electric vehicle battery catching fire. In contrast, the chance of an internal combustion engine vehicle setting on fire is 0.1%.

Here's a Guardian article about it:

www.theguardian.com/business/2023/nov/20/do-electric-cars-pose-a-greater-fire-risk-than-petrol-or-diesel-vehicles#:~:text=It%20found%20there%20was%20a,for%20internal%20combustion%20engine%20cars.

Which begs the question why I've now seen a noticeable number of photos and short videos out there on the Internet of an electric vehicle up in flames for no foreseeable reason - but am now trying to recall if I've ever seen a petrol vehicle up in flames for no obvious reason (haven't thought of one yet.....).

Jaxjacky Sat 23-Nov-24 19:25:17

Luton airport October 2023 Cariad a petrol Range Rover caused a fire in a multi storey car park that destroyed 1,300 vehicles, that’s a fact.
You can find unsubstantiated information on the web about electric vehicles fires easy peasy, unsubstantiated being the clue.

Allira Sat 23-Nov-24 19:33:07

melp1

We recently moved and the cost was around £7000 not £20,000 as Karmalady mentioned. Solicitors, Estate Agent, Removals and Stamp duty. I guess it depends how much the house your buying is, ours was £300,000. I guess if you want to start putting in new kitchens/bathrooms, carpets decorating it would cost more but if you stayed in the old house you would probably have to upgrade at some point.

£7,000?
We were given an estimate of £30,000 which did include removal expenses - of half a mile!

M0nica Sat 23-Nov-24 23:09:33

CariadAgain

NotSpaghetti

CariadAgain and othets:

There is a 0.0012 % chance of a passenger electric vehicle battery catching fire. In contrast, the chance of an internal combustion engine vehicle setting on fire is 0.1%.

Here's a Guardian article about it:

www.theguardian.com/business/2023/nov/20/do-electric-cars-pose-a-greater-fire-risk-than-petrol-or-diesel-vehicles#:~:text=It%20found%20there%20was%20a,for%20internal%20combustion%20engine%20cars.

Which begs the question why I've now seen a noticeable number of photos and short videos out there on the Internet of an electric vehicle up in flames for no foreseeable reason - but am now trying to recall if I've ever seen a petrol vehicle up in flames for no obvious reason (haven't thought of one yet.....).

Electric car fires are fimed because of people's interest in electric car battery fires. Fires involving ordinary petrol cars are so numerous and frequent that nobody considers them worth filming.

Goldieoldie15 Sun 24-Nov-24 02:28:13

What would really help is the government which does not spend £8millions a day just to subsidise the immigrants and support their lifestyle of choice.

theworriedwell Sun 24-Nov-24 11:15:55

CariadAgain

NotSpaghetti

CariadAgain and othets:

There is a 0.0012 % chance of a passenger electric vehicle battery catching fire. In contrast, the chance of an internal combustion engine vehicle setting on fire is 0.1%.

Here's a Guardian article about it:

www.theguardian.com/business/2023/nov/20/do-electric-cars-pose-a-greater-fire-risk-than-petrol-or-diesel-vehicles#:~:text=It%20found%20there%20was%20a,for%20internal%20combustion%20engine%20cars.

Which begs the question why I've now seen a noticeable number of photos and short videos out there on the Internet of an electric vehicle up in flames for no foreseeable reason - but am now trying to recall if I've ever seen a petrol vehicle up in flames for no obvious reason (haven't thought of one yet.....).

I don't know how it works but on some internet sites they have algorithms that look at what you seem interested in and sends more of the same. Could that be happening? Nothing ever comes up for me about car fires, petrol/diesel/electric.

Witzend Sun 24-Nov-24 12:30:43

CariadAgain, one vehicle fire I’d really have liked to know the cause of, was on the other carriageway of the M40 when I was on the way to a DD’s. It was a huge truck, completely ablaze - I could feel the heat while passing on the other side of the motorway.
Very scary!

M0nica Sun 24-Nov-24 12:33:46

Goldieoldie15

What would really help is the government which does not spend £8millions a day just to subsidise the immigrants and support their lifestyle of choice.

Since it doesn't, it isn't a problem.

Doodledog Mon 25-Nov-24 21:08:54

M0nica

Goldieoldie15

What would really help is the government which does not spend £8millions a day just to subsidise the immigrants and support their lifestyle of choice.

Since it doesn't, it isn't a problem.

Where is this figure of £8m a day coming from?

How can we know how much is spent on people we don't know are here?

Norah Mon 25-Nov-24 21:25:33

Goldieoldie15

What would really help is the government which does not spend £8millions a day just to subsidise the immigrants and support their lifestyle of choice.

Says who?