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LadyInBlue Sun 01-Dec-24 17:36:41

Has anyone seen or read about Keir Starmer wanting the police to call on all the millions of people that signed the petition asking for another general election. I was watching catchup on You Tube this afternoon and a few of the social media stations were mentioning it.

What happened to free speech or is that no longer a thing in Great Britain.

Mt61 Mon 02-Dec-24 12:11:48

It would cost thousands if not over a million in police wages to knock on every door- never heard of anything as daft. That would add to his black hole.
As for YouTube, I take it with a pinch of salt, (most of it, anyway)

NotSpaghetti Mon 02-Dec-24 12:05:39

Yes exactly Cossy - I recently found an excellent video about mounting a TV on a swivel stand which, had I seen it earlier, might have made my purchase of said stand somewhat simpler!

Also. I wouldn't have realised spanakopita was so easy if I hadn't seen a video on @DimitrasDishes

I think it can definitely be educational

Cossy Mon 02-Dec-24 11:41:50

Although, having said that, I do find some really useful stuff on YouTube, like how do I locate so and so on a machine or how to assemble or take apart something, so I really meant not serious news, as if I learned how to do something I guess that is educational!

Cossy Mon 02-Dec-24 11:37:26

nanna8

When ‘they’ start censoring YouTube I’ll be worried. I like that you can get so many totally differing views on there. Extreme, moderate and just plain daft. Vivé la difference ,as they say !

Unless people using YouTube post extremely dangerous things, both YouTube and Tik-Tok are unlikely to be censored.

I’ll be honest I view both these sites purely for entertainment value. I don’t view them as serious news nor educational sites.

NotSpaghetti Mon 02-Dec-24 11:10:05

I have some YouTube subscriptions Delila I expect the OP does too.

Mine include @pastagrannies and @DimitrasDishes - both excellent in my opinion.

Nano14 Mon 02-Dec-24 11:04:49

Delila

What is “catchup on YouTube”. What were you catching up on OP?

That's exactly what I thought.

nanna8 Mon 02-Dec-24 11:01:27

When ‘they’ start censoring YouTube I’ll be worried. I like that you can get so many totally differing views on there. Extreme, moderate and just plain daft. Vivé la difference ,as they say !

Delila Mon 02-Dec-24 10:51:49

What is “catchup on YouTube”. What were you catching up on OP?

MissAdventure Mon 02-Dec-24 10:49:11

grin

Cossy Mon 02-Dec-24 10:43:45

Elegran

And, Cossy it would not surprise me if some of the signatures were from Donald Duck and his friends.

Indeed! Our Police will be off to DisneyWorld to interview them!

Elegran Mon 02-Dec-24 10:33:42

And, Cossy it would not surprise me if some of the signatures were from Donald Duck and his friends.

Elegran Mon 02-Dec-24 10:30:39

You said "I did NOT say I believed it, I asked if anyone had seen or read about it." and in your post and subsequent one the impression you gave was that you at least half believed it. That spread the suggestion that it was likely to be true

Enough people sharing fake news, even indirectly as "Have you heard . . " makes such a mass of mentions of it as "news" in the media and online that those who don't look for confirmation think "No smoke without fire" That is how the dirty tricks departments of other countries and parties use the media and particularly the internet and social media (think of X) for propaganda.

You also posted "Also people are being jailed for saying what they think and that is free speech being curtailed by the government." and by posting that without being flung in jail without a fair trial, you proved that it wasn't true. Everything anyone says on the internet can be (and often is) picked up and repeated by others, and can be misquoted or cleverly edited. Roaming AI bots could quote that as fake news about "oppression" and "false imprisonment" in the UK.

If you still believe that, at least make sure that the thing you are talking about is true, or you could find yourself on trial for slander or libel (with a fair trial to ascertain whether or not you were right in saying it. In this country, the judiciary are not subordinate to the whims of the current government - and they fight to remain so.)

Wyllow3 Mon 02-Dec-24 10:25:42

Perhaps the lesson is not to post unfounded and unreferenced social media claims without checking, and not to make contentious political remarks on the basis of those SM claims, Becuase they will always be checked and challenged.

We got into terrible deep water over the southport murders and riots when a poster published in here the actual original SM rumour about the perp. The thread was deleted by GN in the end as being dangerously speculative.

Unfortunately we live in a world full of false claims and conspiracy theories.

CariadAgain Mon 02-Dec-24 10:25:28

I've found there are a noticeable number of fake YouTube videos coming up on my feed at the moment. Yep - if only Starmer had just resigned for instance (as per a typical one of them that's come through recently). So if one "sounds too good to be true" then I take a sceptical view to start with and, if I'm hoping they're right = I'll check elsewhere. eg mainstream media (as bad and as biased as they are) will certainly put up something pretty fast if something as newsworthy as that comes up.

Makes a change from having to try to catch genuinely factual videos before they get censored off - for instance I've just watched a very genuine/very factual one about chemtrails. Intelligent/articulate woman who has been gathering all the evidence that it is happening over her own part of America - and then went onto give a talk to the United Nations about it. But I won't be surprised if it's censored off shortly - because I am SO used to that happening that I know I have to often watch one fast before it disappears.

But - yep....back to the "obvious fakes" and I've been wondering why there's been an outcrop of them in recent weeks and speculating as to whether it's Russian disinformation - instead of "our own" for once.

Cossy Mon 02-Dec-24 10:17:24

I agree NotSpaghetti No need to leave, all are welcome!

However, be prepared to be challenged and critiqued, it kind of goes with the territory grin

MissAdventure Mon 02-Dec-24 10:16:06

smile

NotSpaghetti Mon 02-Dec-24 10:15:23

MissAdventure

Blimey.
Has NotSpaghetti left, mid sentence?

Sadly no!
gringringrin

NotSpaghetti Mon 02-Dec-24 10:14:22

...leave. You have commented on several threads and are welcome here.

Please just think about it.
This thread may have been seen as a bit silly by many - but it doesn’t mean you shouldn't stay.

MissAdventure Mon 02-Dec-24 10:14:15

Blimey.
Has NotSpaghetti left, mid sentence?

NotSpaghetti Mon 02-Dec-24 10:11:12

LadyInBlue there's no need to leav

Wyllow3 Mon 02-Dec-24 10:08:18

*Especially if an O/P then goes onto claim
"What happened to free speech or is that no longer a thing in Great Britain*

Millions of posts appear on social media everyday and to use an unfounded and unsourced one to make a serious accusation is bound to get a reaction.

Cossy Mon 02-Dec-24 10:06:23

Wyllow3

*As I just said above, and gave a ref, it was a rumour that the O/P could have easily checked 2 days before posting on GN and was proved false*

If an O/P expects to be taken seriously, then it's important to get your ducks in a row.

🦆🦆🦆

Wyllow3 Mon 02-Dec-24 10:05:05

As I just said above, and gave a ref, it was a rumour that the O/P could have easily checked 2 days before posting on GN and was proved false

If an O/P expects to be taken seriously, then it's important to get your ducks in a row.

Cossy Mon 02-Dec-24 09:57:35

Elegran

How much police time would be wasted knocking on the doors of three million people who had signed a (perfectly legal to do) petition? at a guess, five minutes per person, if they are just tirning up to give them a fright, and not spending longer interviewing them and giving them a warning (for doing something legal?) That is twelve an hour. Twelve into three million is a quarter of a million - 250,000.

Do you really think, with the police forces already stretched to find and catch real criminals, that any PM would send them to walk the streets of Britain seeking out individuals who had signed a (PERFECTLY LEGALLY) to bring home to them the error of their ways?

Could we have a link to the source of this, please, so that we can see it with our own eyes? I have a feeling that it started on X and is being repeated by suckers.

Not to mention tracking down these signatory signers, lots of petitions just have name, email address and post code!

It’s such a silly concept!

Also, it’s been proven some signatories were not even based in the UK

Cossy Mon 02-Dec-24 09:54:57

nanna8

Well that’s me told.

😂😂😂😂😂

Oh dear, sorry that made me smile! Yes, in some respects you are right, but given some of the comments made by the OP I cannot feel too sorry for her.

You’ll know most of us are pretty blunt on here and as dear GSM would say, “don’t suffer fools gladly”

It was a daft and silly post and it was challenged!