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LadyInBlue Sun 01-Dec-24 17:36:41

Has anyone seen or read about Keir Starmer wanting the police to call on all the millions of people that signed the petition asking for another general election. I was watching catchup on You Tube this afternoon and a few of the social media stations were mentioning it.

What happened to free speech or is that no longer a thing in Great Britain.

MissAdventure Sun 01-Dec-24 22:03:36

In the absence of anything sensible to be incensed about, people are now getting wound up about about made up twaddle.

Dickens Sun 01-Dec-24 21:53:57

Cossy

mae13

It really wouldn't surprise me in the least. Nor would it surprise me if Fuhrér Starmer insisted we all had to swear an oath of loyalty to him, Robber Reeves and Angela Rayner.

The Sacred Triumverate.

FGS!

what utter balderdash!

... Fuhrér Starmer ???

This is inflammatory nonsense at its worst.

Go post on Elon Musk's X, you'll be more at home there.

RosiesMaw2 Sun 01-Dec-24 21:37:45

LadyInBlue

RosiesMaw2

Fake news
Stupid to believe it, irresponsible to spread it.

No spreading, just asking.

There is a disingenuous way of hinting at gossip or fake news which the tabloids exploit to great effect.
It consists of asking an outrageous question which plants the seed of doubt, the hint of “smoke” without which there is no fire.
Eg
Did Prince Philip have a secret love?
Has Harry been asked to help out the RF?
Have the Middletons been left out of the Sandringham Christmas? Etc
All silly enough but somebody somewhere will believe what the questions purport to be asking.

Jaxjacky Sun 01-Dec-24 21:28:42

LadyInBlue

Cossy

Jaxjacky

What a load of garbage, dear oh dear, your last sentence intimates you did believe it.

It did. It didn’t read as a question at all!

You say it doesn't read as a question.

I asked if anyone had seen or read, if that isn't a question then I do not know what is. Perhaps you should study English a bit more and then you will understand what a question is. Perhaps I should have added a question mark after the QUESTION to clarify it for you.

This sentence of yours suggests that people were not allowed to add their name to the petition and therefore would be called upon by the police, hence you accepted that statement as
credible information.

‘What happened to free speech or is that no longer a thing in Great Britain.

NotSpaghetti Sun 01-Dec-24 21:00:45

look at that poor man who hung himself in jail because he was locked up for saying things against the government.

Do you mean the sad case of the man (Peter Lynch) who encouraged riots and who shouted "racist and provocative remarks" towards the police and called asylum seekers in the hotel "child killers" and who was found guilty of (and pled guilty to) violent disorder?

If not, please tell me who you mean, LadyInBlue
Thanks.

Iam64 Sun 01-Dec-24 20:55:10

A word of support for Bahumbug and Wyllow3. LadyinBlue it’s no good complaining and insisting you were onky asking a question when you went on to suggest free speech is no longer in Gt Britain
Your OP is inflammatory nonsense

Wyllow3 Sun 01-Dec-24 20:35:26

"What happened to free speech or is that no longer a thing in Great Britain."

*It appears to me that you do indeed believe this, because you later refer to arrests made during the riots - I quote - as

"speaking against the government*

No, those arrests were not anti government but were for serious offences following the terrible tragedy of 3 young girls being stabbed and rumours arising from it

organising violent riots

taking part in violent riots

posting hate memes on media social media like " bomb all the adults dead in the mosques".

I have come away with the impression that the arrests are your target, not the absurd social media post you repeated that 3 million will get knocking on doors for signing a petition.

Brahumbug Sun 01-Dec-24 20:14:30

LadyInBlue

Has anyone seen or read about Keir Starmer wanting the police to call on all the millions of people that signed the petition asking for another general election. I was watching catchup on You Tube this afternoon and a few of the social media stations were mentioning it.

What happened to free speech or is that no longer a thing in Great Britain.

Adding "What happened to free speech or is that no longer a thing in Great Britain." Very definitely makes it sound as if you believe it to be true, whether you meant it or not.

OldFrill Sun 01-Dec-24 20:12:03

LadyInBlue

Cossy

Jaxjacky

What a load of garbage, dear oh dear, your last sentence intimates you did believe it.

It did. It didn’t read as a question at all!

You say it doesn't read as a question.

I asked if anyone had seen or read, if that isn't a question then I do not know what is. Perhaps you should study English a bit more and then you will understand what a question is. Perhaps I should have added a question mark after the QUESTION to clarify it for you.

Without the question mark l assumed it was rhetorical.

LadyInBlue Sun 01-Dec-24 20:06:41

Cossy

Jaxjacky

What a load of garbage, dear oh dear, your last sentence intimates you did believe it.

It did. It didn’t read as a question at all!

You say it doesn't read as a question.

I asked if anyone had seen or read, if that isn't a question then I do not know what is. Perhaps you should study English a bit more and then you will understand what a question is. Perhaps I should have added a question mark after the QUESTION to clarify it for you.

Oreo Sun 01-Dec-24 20:03:59

Understood 😃

LadyInBlue Sun 01-Dec-24 20:03:46

Smileless2012

No I haven't heard about this LadyInBlue but I wish I'd signed it now grin.

Nearly three million people signed the UK governments petition.

LadyInBlue Sun 01-Dec-24 20:03:02

Oreo

I agree that there was no need for nasty comments directed your way LadyInBlue

Thank you very much, if I had stated my post as fact then yes, I could understand the anger against me but I didn't, I asked a straightforward yes or no question.

LadyInBlue Sun 01-Dec-24 20:01:31

NotSpaghetti

^Also people are being jailed for saying what they think and that is free speech being curtailed by the government.^

Oh really! 🙄

Yes really, look at that poor man who hung himself in jail because he was locked up for saying things against the government. His funeral was yesterday.

Paedophiles have been let out of jail early so people who are speaking against the government can be locked up.

Oreo Sun 01-Dec-24 20:00:24

I agree that there was no need for nasty comments directed your way LadyInBlue

NotSpaghetti Sun 01-Dec-24 19:59:14

Also people are being jailed for saying what they think and that is free speech being curtailed by the government.

Oh really! 🙄

Smileless2012 Sun 01-Dec-24 19:58:00

No I haven't heard about this LadyInBlue but I wish I'd signed it now grin.

Oreo Sun 01-Dec-24 19:57:25

That’s the point of disinformation NotSpaghetti if you spread around ‘fake noos’ then a proportion of people will believe it so you attain your objective.

LadyInBlue Sun 01-Dec-24 19:55:54

I don't think many of you posting on the site has read my post carefully.

I asked if anyone had seen or read about Keir Starmer wanting the police to call on all the millions of people that signed the petition asking for another general election. I was watching catchup on You Tube this afternoon and a few of the social media stations were mentioning it.

I did NOT say I believed it, I asked if anyone had seen or read about it.

Also people are being jailed for saying what they think and that is free speech being curtailed by the government.

I did not want a song and dance and nasty comments about my post, it was just a general enquiry, a simple YES or NO would have sufficed, but no, there is always someone willing to be nasty. What a terrible website this is, I have only been a member a few days and already thinking about leaving. I also have never, ever seen as many deleted posts on any social websites, they must have been bad for the moderators to delete them, how sad.

Post over.

lemsip Sun 01-Dec-24 19:55:09

Fake news!

NotSpaghetti Sun 01-Dec-24 19:52:15

LadyInBlue
This is pure rubbish.

I don't know who would believe it.
grin

vampirequeen Sun 01-Dec-24 19:48:58

Musk spread the petition all over the world. Many who signed it don't live in the UK and others aren't even citizens of the UK.

I suspect this is simply more Musk interference.

Babs03 Sun 01-Dec-24 19:48:00

Seriously??
People actually believe this??
Well I can only say there is one born every minute.

Oreo Sun 01-Dec-24 19:41:57

A younger woman I work with gets very confused by what she sees and hears as news, and tbh I can understand why.Things are reported as facts when they aren’t and pics are altered in a very clever way to look real.We live in an age of both information and disinformation and when most people now get news on their phones on SM, it becomes more and more important to sift the facts until you get an approximate picture of the actual truth.It’s worrying.
No LadyInBlue it def won’t be happening, so no worries.

AGAA4 Sun 01-Dec-24 19:34:55

I've seen it all now. Can't believe anyone would think this is true.