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Guess which country has the most ultra processed food as a share of household purchases?

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Dinahmo Sat 07-Dec-24 12:55:48

The UK is the highest at 50.7%, followed by Finland, Ireland, Belgium and Germany with purchases between 40% and 50%. The lowest is Portugal at 10.2%, followed by Italy 13.4%, Greece, 13.7% and France 14.2%

I find France rather surprising since there a quite a few overweight people here and they have a liking for McDonalds, or McDo as they call it. There are 1485 McDos in France.

Figures taken from an organization called Amazing Maps

NotSpaghetti Wed 11-Dec-24 16:26:51

Thanks M0nica I had a quick look on Google Scholar but only looked at papers since 2023.
I'd assumed it was new data.

Will read it later.
Thank you

M0nica Wed 11-Dec-24 15:55:20

NotSpaghetti

Where is this info actually from originally - and what was the methodology?

Can someone please tell me?

Here is one reference, pretty heavyweight pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8398521/.

It was reported today that there is a link between consumption of UPFs and the rising incidence of bowel cancer among people under 50. pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10285062/

NotSpaghetti Wed 11-Dec-24 15:48:33

Where is this info actually from originally - and what was the methodology?

Can someone please tell me?

MissAdventure Tue 10-Dec-24 23:36:58

Gransnet is 5%.

Jannicans Tue 10-Dec-24 23:26:35

US is 60%

Allira Mon 09-Dec-24 23:29:50

It looks better than any I've seen in any supermarket although there is an artisan baker's I must try to get to in the next town whose bread is apparently very good.

petal53 Mon 09-Dec-24 23:25:43

Thank you Allira and MissA for admiring the bread. I can’t take any credit because as I said, my son made it.
It is very tasty though, I can vouch for that.

Allira Mon 09-Dec-24 23:16:57

Mollygo

Allira
Thanks for your lists at 16.54 today.
The practice nurse talking about health, also told us that packaged fruit juice ( like Tropicana) and all the milks that don’t come from animals are also UPF.
I didn’t argue with her, but I’d advise her she’d get crushed on GN.

Not to do with food but the practice nurse prescribed bicarbonate of soda drops for my blocked ear. When I mentioned we used to use olive oil for blocked ears she said "No! Not any more, it makes it worse".
The drops she prescribed didn't work. DH had the same problem a week later, saw a young locum GP who prescribed - olive oil drops.

Sorry, that sounds quite boring and long-winded but just to prove the point that they're not all singing from the same hymn sheet.

Mollygo Mon 09-Dec-24 23:01:39

Allira
Thanks for your lists at 16.54 today.
The practice nurse talking about health, also told us that packaged fruit juice ( like Tropicana) and all the milks that don’t come from animals are also UPF.
I didn’t argue with her, but I’d advise her she’d get crushed on GN.

Allira Mon 09-Dec-24 22:39:22

I shall partake shortly.

MissAdventure Mon 09-Dec-24 19:46:10

No doubt I have, and might have some more before bed. smile

Allira Mon 09-Dec-24 19:33:40

The point is, I've no idea what the chemicals are, because I'm not the slightest bit interested.
I'm sure you've consumed some today, more than once.

It just goes to show how lists of ingredients could be worrying.

Allira Mon 09-Dec-24 19:32:19

The bread looks lovely, very professional, petal53

MissAdventure Mon 09-Dec-24 19:31:50

grin Witzend.

The point is, I've no idea what the chemicals are, because I'm not the slightest bit interested.

That loaf, on the other hand, looks tasty! It's very shapely as well.
The only 2 loaves I've made were lumpy.

Allira Mon 09-Dec-24 19:31:34

petal53

MissAdventure

Oh thank you.
I don't think I've got any of those ingredients.

They sound dangerous! smile

I hope you’ve got water MissA.
And hopefully it’s not dangerous, though our water companies aren’t doing too good a job these days.

Anyway I’m far too lazy to make my own bread. We buy sourdough loaves or seeded uncut.
My son makes lovely sourdough loaves though.
He made this one.

Hydrogen, oxygen, chlorine, calcium carbonate, plumbing, F-, chloramine, chlorine dioxide, aluminium sulphate, magnesium sulphate, ferric chloride etc.

Consume as much as required, it has no calories.

Witzend Mon 09-Dec-24 18:56:37

Allira

Mollygo

MissAdventure

Seventhly, people who aren't rapturous about lentils.

7.5 ly, those who avoid lentils because the lentils cause excessive flatus for them, potentially damaging the atmosphere.

😁

Don't forget sprouts.
There will be plenty of methane around after all those Christmas dinners.

My father used to call sprouts (and baked beans) fart-fruits.

petal53 Mon 09-Dec-24 18:44:16

MissAdventure

Oh thank you.
I don't think I've got any of those ingredients.

They sound dangerous! smile

I hope you’ve got water MissA.
And hopefully it’s not dangerous, though our water companies aren’t doing too good a job these days.

Anyway I’m far too lazy to make my own bread. We buy sourdough loaves or seeded uncut.
My son makes lovely sourdough loaves though.
He made this one.

Allira Mon 09-Dec-24 17:57:44

MissAdventure

vegansrock

Anyone seen the queues of secondary school kids in those cheap fast food chicken/ pizza/ chips etc shops?

They serve much the same in some schools.
The days of school dinners seem well and truly over.

Unfortunately that's true.

MissAdventure Mon 09-Dec-24 17:53:20

vegansrock

Anyone seen the queues of secondary school kids in those cheap fast food chicken/ pizza/ chips etc shops?

They serve much the same in some schools.
The days of school dinners seem well and truly over.

MissAdventure Mon 09-Dec-24 17:47:13

Neither were we.
We still went out though, discreetly.

Allira Mon 09-Dec-24 17:45:29

vegansrock

Anyone seen the queues of secondary school kids in those cheap fast food chicken/ pizza/ chips etc shops?

We were never allowed out of school at lunch-time unless we had written permission and went home for dinner.

vegansrock Mon 09-Dec-24 17:36:06

Anyone seen the queues of secondary school kids in those cheap fast food chicken/ pizza/ chips etc shops?

Allira Mon 09-Dec-24 17:35:10

MissAdventure

Oh thank you.
I don't think I've got any of those ingredients.

They sound dangerous! smile

They're not! 😁
If you didn't contain calcium carbonate you'd collapse.

Allira Mon 09-Dec-24 17:32:54

Wheat flour: calcium carbonate, iron, niacin, thiamin are in any non-wholemeal flour.
These minerals and vitamins are found in many foods.
Rapeseed Oil - I would put some butter or oil in a dough mix.
Vinegar - never used it.
Ascorbic Acid - aka Vitamin C

Emulsifier (Mono- and Diacetyl Tartaric Acid Esters of Mono- and Diglycerides of Fatty Acids) a preservative.
I wouldn't use it but I can see why manufacturers would need to.

MissAdventure Mon 09-Dec-24 17:25:28

Oh thank you.
I don't think I've got any of those ingredients.

They sound dangerous! smile