Alleged Chinese spy with links to Prince Andrew banned from the UK

Edward was very close to the late Queen, he certainly did not follow the path of previous Dukes, he joined armed forces as his brothers did, jacked that in then involved in theatre, then
tv producer , married and took on royal duties, was very close to both parents

I think the Duke of Windsor was more of a traitor than generally realised.
It is now well documented from contemporary sources.
See Andrew Lownies book
The Traitor King.

There is absolutely no excuse for the Duke of Windsor. He was a traitor pure and simple. I don’t think Andrew is in the same league as that, just dumb and arrogant.

I’ve been watching ‘Edward and George- Windsors At War’ on channel 4, I think.

It was interesting.

You cannot help but compare the lives of Edward and Harry. So similar in many ways, although Harry didn’t ‘abdicate’, he just ‘stepped back’.

But the similarities are there.

The choice of wives, American, divorced, both men besotted with these strong women.

Had been close to their respective brothers, but no more.

Hurtful comments about the royal wives which were made public.

Tell-all books written by both Edward and Harry.

And the main thing, both men looking increasingly unhappy with their new lives, despite efforts to appear otherwise.

Sorry, realise I have digressed from Andrew!

The Duchess of Windsor didn’t grab every microphone and beam at every camera, she didn’t push The Duke out of her way because she wanted to be first in line

I now agree with you wellbeck, about Edward Windsor, after watching a shocking documentary which showed communications from him encouraging the Germans to bomb London. Yes, I was truly shocked.

Exactly.
The implication was that when the nazis invaded Edward would be their puppet king.
He was in cahoots with them while living in France and then Spain.
Churchill had to order him to go to the Bahamas to distance him from nazi agents.

Nanna8
I agree with you about Andrew.
And Edward.

There are now demands that Andrew stay away from Church
on Christmas Day, I don’t agree with this

Anniebach

There are now demands that Andrew stay away from Church
on Christmas Day, I don’t agree with this

Really? Presumably only from all those who are without sin themselves.

Prince Andrew is desperately trying to hang on to Royal Lodge in Windsor Park, which requires a great deal of expensive maintenance. The King has offered smaller alternative accommodation, Frogmore Cottage, spurned by Harry but he has refused, claiming to want to pass the property on to his daughters, which is stupid as it is not his to leave. Hence the foreign 'aid' to provide the lifestyle he believes he is entitled to.
How he will earn any sort of income I don't know.
Hence the seeking of foreign

Andrew is a prat - probably a lazy greedy one. BUT we all need to be aware that China has for years been very clear - a patriotic citizen does their best to advance China and China's interests at all times. It is up to us to watch our interests. (I say this having lived near the U of Warwick for many years) certain schools are targeted by China's students - ones of clear utility to a competing power.

He like everyone is entitled to attend a place of worship, and it is a family occasion not a public

I think it might be the family who are trying to dissuade him Annieb!

Mollygo

Anniebach

There are now demands that Andrew stay away from Church
on Christmas Day, I don’t agree with this

Really? Presumably only from all those who are without sin themselves.

Why should he stay away from church on Christmas Day?
What a bizarre thought.

Presumably only from all those who are without sin themselves. Let him who is without sin cast the first stone
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He who is without sin!

AI's grammar is not very good.

I've just read that he and Sarah Ferguson are allegedly now not even going to Sandringham. They're going to stay holed up in Royal Lodge.

That must be a bit of a blow for Fergie as she's only recently been able to creep back into the fold as it were.

Calendargirl

I’ve been watching ‘Edward and George- Windsors At War’ on channel 4, I think.

It was interesting.

You cannot help but compare the lives of Edward and Harry. So similar in many ways, although Harry didn’t ‘abdicate’, he just ‘stepped back’.

But the similarities are there.

The choice of wives, American, divorced, both men besotted with these strong women.

Had been close to their respective brothers, but no more.

Hurtful comments about the royal wives which were made public.

Tell-all books written by both Edward and Harry.

And the main thing, both men looking increasingly unhappy with their new lives, despite efforts to appear otherwise.

I watched a lot of this programme and was struck by the similarities of the characters and the situation too.
Both dark haired and very thin as well, like history repeating itself.

Anniebach

He like everyone is entitled to attend a place of worship, and it is a family occasion not a public

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Quote ferry23 Mon 16-Dec-24 17:07:47
I've just read that he and Sarah Ferguson are allegedly now not even going to Sandringham. They're going to stay holed up in Royal Lodge.

That must be a bit of a blow for Fergie as she's only recently been able to creep back into the fold as it were.

She didn’t creep back, Christmas Day last year she dashed around grabbing flowers as the family left Church

ferry23

I've just read that he and Sarah Ferguson are allegedly now not even going to Sandringham. They're going to stay holed up in Royal Lodge.

That must be a bit of a blow for Fergie as she's only recently been able to creep back into the fold as it were.

"Creep back". What an awful thing to say. Forgiveness, from the wider family, better for all, especially children, even if they are grown up. Called being an adult.

Freya5

ferry23

I've just read that he and Sarah Ferguson are allegedly now not even going to Sandringham. They're going to stay holed up in Royal Lodge.

That must be a bit of a blow for Fergie as she's only recently been able to creep back into the fold as it were.

"Creep back". What an awful thing to say. Forgiveness, from the wider family, better for all, especially children, even if they are grown up. Called being an adult.

I meant "creep" as taking things slowly and steadily. Not as taking a shady route back into the family.

There are other churches he could go to Anniebach he doesn't have to worship in the public eye.

The hypocrisy of the Conservatives MPs saying they can't understand how the Prince got so close to a Chinese spy!

When they never questionned, or investigated, how Boris Johnson, as Foreign Secretary, and straight out of a Nato summit on security re Russia- went to meet KGB links for a big bunga bunga party- returning drunk and not compos mentis at airport- and then appointed him to the Lords!

Not very long before the war in Ukraine either.