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FriedGreenTomatoes2 Tue 17-Dec-24 08:59:11

Apparently in Scotland the (new?) law is that Christmas puddings containing alcohol cannot be bought until 10am! You couldn’t make this up could you? I thought alcohol ‘burns off’ anyway during cooking - leaving just the flavour?

At a self checkout in a supermarket in north Glasgow yesterday a couple tried to scan their pudding and the screen flagged up ‘assistance required’. Aargh! Nice early shop scuppered. New SNP law apparently.

Parallels with that amusing thread I started about sawing off the bottom of school classroom doors during Covid comes to mind!

escaped Tue 17-Dec-24 14:40:59

This is justFGTcustomary SNP BAAADpost.Infact I didn’t,t realised she had a name change until I saw it.Sorry Urm …hope I haven,t outed you.
Ah, but have you worked out the dozen or so others then?
FGT made no secret of her name change on here which was down to unexplained technical difficulties. It happens to the best when we get "removed". grin No one hides their reincarnation on purpose.

Do Scots pay more for their alcohol filled Waitrose Christmas puddings than the English then? I thought the SNP legislation on booze included higher pricing? If so, they are being robbed.

M0nica Tue 17-Dec-24 15:07:50

No, not all alcohol burns off during cooking: The amount of alcohol retained depends on the cooking method and how long the food is cooked:

Sauces that are boiled and then removed from heat retain about 85% of their alcohol. Dishes that are flamed retain about 75% of their alcohol. Marinades that aren't cooked retain up to 70% of their alcohol. Meats and baked goods that are cooked for 25 minutes without stirring retain about 45% of their alcohol. Stews and other dishes that simmer for two and a half hours retain about 5% of their alcohol.
AI regenerative on google.

Casdon Tue 17-Dec-24 18:43:26

Do people feed alcohol into Christmas puddings like we do with the Christmas cake, which gets a tablespoon of brandy every week from being made until it’s iced? Genuine question, as I’ve never made a Christmas pudding in my life.

Mollygo Tue 17-Dec-24 19:10:03

My MIL did that. We tend to heat the brandy, till it’s hot enough to light, then pour it over the pudding, always accompanied by oohs and aahs from the DGC and anxious glances at the smoke alarm from my son-in-law.
For the last two years, guesses about how long the blue flames will last have been made more serious/fun by using a timer.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Tue 17-Dec-24 19:15:06

paddyann54

This is just FGT ustomary SNP BAAAD post.In fact I didn’t,t realised she had a name change until I saw it.
The alcohol legislation was much needed to try to curb the issues boozecauses and the vast majority haven,t a problem with it.Why would we keep voting SNP back in Holyrood otherwise?
Sorry Urm …hope I haven,t outed you.

You haven’t! Not at all.
I was quite upfront about my name change and the reasons for it (thanks again Lily in GNHQ!).

The units of alcohol per pricing by the SNP?
Waste of time. 🤣
Well intentioned but ineffective actually.

Have you seen the data? 😮

mum2three Wed 18-Dec-24 06:08:09

Is it just Christmas puddings? What about tiramasu and liquer chocolates? I'm sure there are people being paid to sit and conjure up all these silly rules.

Allsorts Wed 18-Dec-24 06:53:54

Do you see many people lying comatose on pavements having got drunk on Christmas puddings.? Interesting.

J52 Wed 18-Dec-24 07:05:20

*“The units of alcohol per pricing by the SNP?
Waste of time. 🤣
Well intentioned but ineffective actually.

Have you seen the data? 😮”*

Yes, I’ve looked at the Public Health for Scotlands evaluation data. This shows that minimum pricing has reduced deaths from alcohol by 13.4%and hospital admissions by 4.1%.
Can I ask what data you are referring to.

Aveline Wed 18-Dec-24 08:36:50

Alcohol deaths? Highest in Europe. Reduced hospital admissions due to reduced places available for admission

J52 Wed 18-Dec-24 08:39:50

Aveline

Alcohol deaths? Highest in Europe. Reduced hospital admissions due to reduced places available for admission

Well they may still be, but I consider every life saved in that 13.4% worthwhile.
Of course everyone is entitled to their opinions, as long as they are not dressed up as facts from ‘data’.

Sarnia Wed 18-Dec-24 09:01:30

Who are these clowns in Government who spend time on stupid laws like this instead of tackling the big issues?

Witzend Wed 18-Dec-24 09:06:05

Casdon

Do people feed alcohol into Christmas puddings like we do with the Christmas cake, which gets a tablespoon of brandy every week from being made until it’s iced? Genuine question, as I’ve never made a Christmas pudding in my life.

Not in this house, no, and TBH I’ve never heard of it. It gets a good dousing just before coming to the table!

M0nica Wed 18-Dec-24 09:23:50

I put brandy in the mix when I make a Christmas pudding. I put a good slug of brandy on it when it has been cooked and it is going into (temporary) storage and dowse it again when repeated through on Christmas day before putting a match to it to take it, flaming, into the dining room.

Wyllow3 Wed 18-Dec-24 09:32:21

Sarnia

Who are these clowns in Government who spend time on stupid laws like this instead of tackling the big issues?

I'm not quite sure what you meant, just querying, because the O/P gave completely wrong information when it said,

"New SNP law apparently".

Nothing new - it was established on the first page that the SNP alcohol laws are 20 years old and the problems at checkout on puddings due to Waitrose check out systems because of labelling on goods.

(sorry in advance if that wasn't what you were referring to)

GrauntyHelen Wed 18-Dec-24 12:42:08

Another Snp bashing thread SIGH Id rather be governed by them and enjoy my free bus travel prescriptions and tuition fees than live in any other part of the UK even if they were banning the sale of Christmas puds pre 10am which they aren't!

escaped Wed 18-Dec-24 12:55:45

Witzend

Casdon

Do people feed alcohol into Christmas puddings like we do with the Christmas cake, which gets a tablespoon of brandy every week from being made until it’s iced? Genuine question, as I’ve never made a Christmas pudding in my life.

Not in this house, no, and TBH I’ve never heard of it. It gets a good dousing just before coming to the table!

I put port and brandy in mine when making. I prefer not to flambée it on the day. Nigella recommends vodka to flame it.

I remember my mil made hers with a bottle of stout.

jocork Wed 18-Dec-24 13:06:51

Wyllow3

Its not at all a new law - but a strange new application of it by the shops concerned

Sale of alcohol free/ non-alcoholic drinks before 10am


"The Licensing (Scotland) Act 2005 (“the 2005 Act”) sets out the legal framework which underpins the alcohol licensing regime in Scotland.

"In terms of the 2005 Act, the definition of alcohol does not include “alcohol which is of a strength of 0.5% or less at the time of its sale”. If the non-alcoholic beverage has 0.5% alcohol or less then it is not subject to the provisions of the 2005 Act"

But I cant find anywhere WHY shops are suddenly restricting purchases? It's not in the main articles on it

seems to me we need some sensible ruling pdq.

I find it astonishing that when I buy 0% alcohol lager in the supermarket I need assistance at the self service tills. The law is a ass! And this is England, so nothing to do with the SNP. At least it's not restricted to after 10am.

heavenlyheath Wed 18-Dec-24 13:09:33

What a joke will the scots be fined if the put brandy on and set it alight

Wyllow3 Wed 18-Dec-24 13:14:35

I guess its as straightforward as - the English self service tills haven't been trained to recognise the difference between 0% and real alcohol drinks?

Aveline Wed 18-Dec-24 14:19:38

GrauntyHelen SNP freebies are paid for by us poor tax payers. Nothing is for nothing.

Maremia Wed 18-Dec-24 16:44:20

And that's what taxes should be spent on... to the benefit of the nation. Much better than wasting it on vanity projects like HS2.

Mojack26 Wed 18-Dec-24 17:28:26

Never heard of it and I live here too...

OldFrill Wed 18-Dec-24 17:45:31

Maremia

And that's what taxes should be spent on... to the benefit of the nation. Much better than wasting it on vanity projects like HS2.

£360 million on two ferries, not including the charter fees for replacements whilst these were being built us pretty eye watering. Millions on foreign Embassies, millions keeping an airport that noone else will buy - going to be a space station apparently. And an ex leader's husband charged with embezzlent. How much to take Alex Salmond to court, he was vindicated. Now they are currently fighting the definition of a woman case in the supreme court. That's just scratching the surface.

Cath9 Wed 18-Dec-24 19:56:40

The family better not fill themselves up with the turkey s I have made three different Christmas puds. One natural, one with fruit and one ice cream Christmas pud. I made the latter as my youngest grandchild remarked,
‘‘I don’t like mincemeat’ so I am hoping an ice cream version may change her mind.

Allira Wed 18-Dec-24 20:38:10

luluaugust

😂😂😂. Obviously no cooks present when this law was passed

😂😂😂

Honestly, whatever next!

Christmas puddings are steamed for hours so any alcohol is driven off.
What about ready-made boeuf bourguinon? That contains red wine. Do customers have to wait patiently at the till to ascertain if they old enough to buy their ready meal?

What a load of numpties!