The SNP and Christmas puddings! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

Is it just Christmas puddings? What about tiramasu and liquer chocolates? I'm sure there are people being paid to sit and conjure up all these silly rules.

paddyann54

This is just FGT ustomary SNP BAAAD post.In fact I didn’t,t realised she had a name change until I saw it.
The alcohol legislation was much needed to try to curb the issues boozecauses and the vast majority haven,t a problem with it.Why would we keep voting SNP back in Holyrood otherwise?
Sorry Urm …hope I haven,t outed you.

You haven’t! Not at all.
I was quite upfront about my name change and the reasons for it (thanks again Lily in GNHQ!).

The units of alcohol per pricing by the SNP?
Waste of time. 🤣
Well intentioned but ineffective actually.

Have you seen the data? 😮

My MIL did that. We tend to heat the brandy, till it’s hot enough to light, then pour it over the pudding, always accompanied by oohs and aahs from the DGC and anxious glances at the smoke alarm from my son-in-law.
For the last two years, guesses about how long the blue flames will last have been made more serious/fun by using a timer.

Do people feed alcohol into Christmas puddings like we do with the Christmas cake, which gets a tablespoon of brandy every week from being made until it’s iced? Genuine question, as I’ve never made a Christmas pudding in my life.

No, not all alcohol burns off during cooking: The amount of alcohol retained depends on the cooking method and how long the food is cooked:

Sauces that are boiled and then removed from heat retain about 85% of their alcohol. Dishes that are flamed retain about 75% of their alcohol. Marinades that aren't cooked retain up to 70% of their alcohol. Meats and baked goods that are cooked for 25 minutes without stirring retain about 45% of their alcohol. Stews and other dishes that simmer for two and a half hours retain about 5% of their alcohol.
AI regenerative on google.

This is justFGTcustomary SNP BAAADpost.Infact I didn’t,t realised she had a name change until I saw it.Sorry Urm …hope I haven,t outed you.
Ah, but have you worked out the dozen or so others then?
FGT made no secret of her name change on here which was down to unexplained technical difficulties. It happens to the best when we get "removed". No one hides their reincarnation on purpose.

Do Scots pay more for their alcohol filled Waitrose Christmas puddings than the English then? I thought the SNP legislation on booze included higher pricing? If so, they are being robbed.

paddyann54

This is just FGT ustomary SNP BAAAD post.In fact I didn’t,t realised she had a name change until I saw it.
The alcohol legislation was much needed to try to curb the issues boozecauses and the vast majority haven,t a problem with it.Why would we keep voting SNP back in Holyrood otherwise?
Sorry Urm …hope I haven,t outed you.

If, as you claim, Scots keep voting SNP why have they deminished to a minority government? And decimated at Westminster.

We still have horrific levels of alcohol induced illness and death. They might as well let anyone buy alcohol whenever they want. It won't make much difference.

Has 20-year old booze legislation in Scotland reduced booze related illness, anti-social behaviour or whatever else it was supposed to help with?

Trustworthy statistics only, please.

This is just FGT ustomary SNP BAAAD post.In fact I didn’t,t realised she had a name change until I saw it.
The alcohol legislation was much needed to try to curb the issues boozecauses and the vast majority haven,t a problem with it.Why would we keep voting SNP back in Holyrood otherwise?
Sorry Urm …hope I haven,t outed you.

Having seen programmes on TV about the Australian customs service I, with much trepidation, posted a family member 2 homemade Christmas puddings after reading that they were actually allowed and I filled in the appropriate customs form. They did contain a "certain" amount of brandy. I am overjoyed to say that they have arrived safe and intact. I wonder if I could have posted them to Scotland?

GrannyGravy13

I might be missing something, I have never seen anyone drunk on Christmas pudding…

Not the pudding per se, but my old Mum once put so much rum in the sauce that we all got a little bit tipsy!

I had to check this out when I read it as unbelievable and utter nonsense, even from these types of 'newspapers'. and I use the term ' news ' lightly. It has nothing to do with SNP and Scottish government, its not new, been the law for over 2 decades. Interestingly I was able to buy xmas cake and pudding in Marks & Spencer before 10am. I did have to wait till after 10 for a bottle of 0.5% juice which was fine. From what I was told its to do with the sophisticated tills.

Witzend

How much alcohol is in Christmas puddings anyway?
Mine (homemade) contains only brown ale - and TBH we prefer it to any of the shop ones.
OTOH before taking it - with a spring of holly - to the table, it’s doused with a really good slosh of flaming 50/50 brandy and vodka!

Sprig!!

Actually, good point Mollygo! 🤔
Maybe some of our early bird Scottish shoppers could do a test case for us in another store? Wyllow be interesting to see whether it’s just Waitrose (in Scotland).

Probably is as grannynannywanny suggests. Or even a cunning plan to encourage the sale of an overstock of Christmas puddings
I wonder if brandy butter or Steak and ale pie are subject to the same treatment.

Is there any evidence its happened anywhere except Waitrose? Ie its the Waitrose tills?

Surely you’d be sick well before you got drunk if you ate that amount of Christmas pudding?

Grannynannywanny

Those licensing laws have been in place in Scotland for 20 years. Supermarket/off sales alcohol can only be purchased between 10am and 10pm. I wonder what’s changed this week. I suspect it’s to do with sophisticated supermarket checkout systems detecting the word alcohol in the ingredients rather than the SNP decreeing that no Christmas puddings can be purchased before 10am.

I suspect you are right about this.

Despite what it says in the O/P. its not "new" Scottish Law and the SNP hasn't actually ruled on it as suggested

How much alcohol is in Christmas puddings anyway?
Mine (homemade) contains only brown ale - and TBH we prefer it to any of the shop ones.
OTOH before taking it - with a spring of holly - to the table, it’s doused with a really good slosh of flaming 50/50 brandy and vodka!

From the Scottish Daily Express today:

“Scrooge" supermarkets have been blasted after banning customers from banning Christmas desserts if they contain booze outside licensing hours. Scotland's draconian alcohol rules mean that alcoholic tipples cannot be purchased in shops before 10am in the morning and after 10pm at night.

These regulations put the country at odds with the rest of the UK as booze can be bought at any time, and was brought in almost 20 years ago by the Labour/Lib Dem administration. The curfew means that anything drink containing alcohol cannot be sold in shops late at night or early in the morning.

Now it has been claimed that some shoppers have been banned from buying boozy Christmas puddings outside these times as well. According to the Daily Mail, one shopper in upmarket supermarket Waitrose was told they couldn't buy a tiramisu before 10am, with another customer unable to purchase a Christmas cake.

Usually sweet treats containing booze, such as Christmas pudding and brandy butter, are not restricted and shops do not need an alcohol licence to sell them. But despite this, some festive fare have been flagged to checkout assistant as tills have automatically refused to accept them.

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Stewart Meldrum, from Newton Mearns in Renfrewshire, claimed that his wife Carol was told on a recent trip to Waitrose that buying a tiramisu before 10am was "unlawful." He said: "At the self-service check-out she was notified "assistance required".

Baffled as to why, the assistant told her that the product she was trying to scan through contained alcohol and as it was before 10am the purchase was unlawful. A fellow shopper next to her was having the same issue with a Christmas cake. The assistant was full of apologies but my wife left without her tiramisu."

The 75-year-old added: "What next? Will they cordon off the tiramisu at night? Why do we in Scotland tolerate such ludicrous micro-governance? I'm seething."

The SNP Government have been accused of unfairly penalising Scots who enjoy a tipple through restrictive alcohol curbs. It installed a minimum price per unit of alcohol which did nothing to combat rising levels of booze-related deaths north of the border despite claiming that it would.

This cost was even increased earlier this year from 50p to 65p despite analysis of the scheme showing not much health benefits that are not counterfactual.”

Those licensing laws have been in place in Scotland for 20 years. Supermarket/off sales alcohol can only be purchased between 10am and 10pm. I wonder what’s changed this week. I suspect it’s to do with sophisticated supermarket checkout systems detecting the word alcohol in the ingredients rather than the SNP decreeing that no Christmas puddings can be purchased before 10am.

Its not at all a new law - but a strange new application of it by the shops concerned

Sale of alcohol free/ non-alcoholic drinks before 10am


"The Licensing (Scotland) Act 2005 (“the 2005 Act”) sets out the legal framework which underpins the alcohol licensing regime in Scotland.

"In terms of the 2005 Act, the definition of alcohol does not include “alcohol which is of a strength of 0.5% or less at the time of its sale”. If the non-alcoholic beverage has 0.5% alcohol or less then it is not subject to the provisions of the 2005 Act"

But I cant find anywhere WHY shops are suddenly restricting purchases? It's not in the main articles on it

seems to me we need some sensible ruling pdq.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Which is why it’s safe for children to eat GG13!

In the past I have threatened our now AC if they misbehaved there would be no present opening until after they had eaten their Christmas Pudding, they were not fans back then…

Oh escaped I had to mention the classroom doors thread - it was hilarious!