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Dennis the Menace and Beryl the Peril next door.

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FriedGreenTomatoes2 Mon 13-Jan-25 22:07:38

What do you think of Labour so far?
Yes 14 years of ‘chaos and division’ with the Tories and so 6 months isn’t long by comparison.

But how do you feel they’re doing?
Anyone with voter’s remorse or is it still too early to tell?
Are you optimistic about 4 more years with them or are you disappointed?

Cossy Tue 14-Jan-25 10:47:52

Boz

Britain is a Conservative Country that occasionally votes Labour.
In four years they will be out - Reform is just one point behind Labour in polls - and we will have a Con?Reform party.

Not completely accurate.

13 Labour MPs have served two terms (not necessarily all consecutively) and Blair served three consecutive terms.

I don’t actually believe Britain is a conservative country.

Indigo8 Tue 14-Jan-25 10:21:06

Doodledog

Kate1949

I was hoping this would be a nostalgic thread about comics. How disappointing,

That would be far less tedious, I agree. I always liked Minnie the Minx.

I was hoping for the same as I love "The Beano" and "The Dandy".

There must be something wrong with my sense of humour as I found the clumsy comparison offensive rather than funny.

Cossy Tue 14-Jan-25 10:19:23

Barleyfields

Well, we have seen lies, incompetence, fiscal disaster and expensive personal gifts from a crony thus far from Labour, and the anti-corruption minister appears no stranger to corruption - all in the first six months. I have seen it described as the worst ever start to a government.

Mmmm I seem to remember Boris illegally proroguing parliament.

Jaxjacky Tue 14-Jan-25 10:16:58

Calendargirl like football managers, then poof! They’re gone.

Cossy Tue 14-Jan-25 10:15:53

Boz

Britain is a Conservative Country that occasionally votes Labour.
In four years they will be out - Reform is just one point behind Labour in polls - and we will have a Con?Reform party.

Heaven help us!!

Barleyfields Tue 14-Jan-25 10:14:08

Well, we have seen lies, incompetence, fiscal disaster and expensive personal gifts from a crony thus far from Labour, and the anti-corruption minister appears no stranger to corruption - all in the first six months. I have seen it described as the worst ever start to a government.

Cossy Tue 14-Jan-25 10:12:14

BlueBelle

Well I knew who the GN er was who stared this thread without even looking 🤣🤣🤣

😂😂😂😂

More boring Starmer/Labour bashing!

🙄🙄🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️

karmalady Tue 14-Jan-25 10:12:03

They are wreckers.

They are doing a good job of ruining our society, our economy, our aspirations for our AC and grandchildren and our hopes for the future of the UK

They are however doing a good job of catapulting the UK into 3rd world status

RosiesMaw2 Tue 14-Jan-25 10:11:40

Or as Morecambe and Wise might have said?

youtu.be/R3ot1HjCRdg

Boz Tue 14-Jan-25 10:11:11

Britain is a Conservative Country that occasionally votes Labour.
In four years they will be out - Reform is just one point behind Labour in polls - and we will have a Con?Reform party.

Cossy Tue 14-Jan-25 10:08:04

FGT

No regrets at all for voting Labour.

Do I agree with everything they have done so far, no, have I given up on them, no!

14 years of Tory rule, which damaged many, in many different ways. 14 years of lies, incompetence, fiscal disaster and crony contracts. 6 months is way too soon to make any discernible positive difference.

Barleyfields Tue 14-Jan-25 10:00:55

GrannyGravy13

Labours current fiscal policy is not going to help growth.

It is penalising business, employers and definitely making them think twice probably thrice on their employment strategy going forward.

I agree. And things will only get worse if Angela Rayner’s planned changes to employment law go through, as they are bound to do given the size of Labour’s majority.

How do I think they’re doing? Dreadfully.

Am I optimistic about another four years? Not in the least.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Tue 14-Jan-25 09:14:17

Oh lighten up! Starmer & Reeves are political ‘neighbours’ in Nos. 10 and 11 hence my playful title. And I put it in Chat because it’s not ‘news’ as such it’s more for discussion of what we all think of it ‘so far’.

“Every confidence” in political verbiage covers various scenarios going forward. At present Starmer has drafted in a helper for Reeves. He realises she needs one.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 14-Jan-25 09:12:09

Labours current fiscal policy is not going to help growth.

It is penalising business, employers and definitely making them think twice probably thrice on their employment strategy going forward.

Luckygirl3 Tue 14-Jan-25 08:56:08

I do not think the title of this thread makes sense in what is purporting to be a discussion about how the new government are doing. Maybe someone might like to start a new thread in the right place. It is an important and interesting topic for discussion.

Oreo Tue 14-Jan-25 08:31:28

On a serious note, I do have some buyers remorse and am worried about what comes next since KS and RR haven’t covered themselves in glory since last June.As others also say tho, what choice did we have? Hobsons!

Oreo Tue 14-Jan-25 08:28:31

Nanato3

I thought it was going to be a thread about the neighbours.
I was looking forward to a laugh blush

Same here😁

Lathyrus3 Tue 14-Jan-25 08:18:23

Kate1949

I was hoping this would be a nostalgic thread about comics. How disappointing,

I thought it was going to be about the neighbours’ awful children 😬

M0nica Tue 14-Jan-25 08:10:11

Sago

I did not vote Labour or Tory.

I am disgusted at the past 14 years of Tory rule.

I made a decision to try and be positive and give the new government time.

I managed no more than 6 weeks.

Starmer is making Boris look competent.

Sago I share the views expressed in every line of your post

madeleine45 David Owen - David Steel was leader and lifelong member of the Liberal party.

Gang of Four David Owen, Roy Jenkins, Shirley Williams, Bill Rodgers

lixy Tue 14-Jan-25 07:23:14

This thread is on Chat - should be in News and Politics.

So is this yet another example of Tory misinformation and ‘stirring’? Certainly several people have been disappointed by the misleading title.

I’m with madeleine45 in that we need grown up politics without all the point scoring, not the knock-about comedy of weekly comics.

Calendargirl Tue 14-Jan-25 07:16:58

Keir has full confidence in his chancellor.

hmm

We often seem to hear that from our leaders, then before you know it….they’re out.

Nanato3 Tue 14-Jan-25 06:31:51

I thought it was going to be a thread about the neighbours.
I was looking forward to a laugh blush

Jane43 Tue 14-Jan-25 05:46:16

madeleine45 Roy Jenkins.

madeleine45 Tue 14-Jan-25 05:36:36

i dont know if any of you remember the missed opportunity years ago, when the "gang of 4" shirley williams, and I think david steel and infuriatingly I can picture the man in my mind but his name escapes me.,(Roy ?) Anyway I have always felt that the british people in reality do not want either far right or far left but that is all they get offered , to swing one way and then the other, So when sensible moderate people think to offer a more middle of the road attitude and do less party politicing and more action it would have been far better.
This male attitude of scoring points and point the finger of blame is ridiculous as the time and energy is spent on that rather than improving the situation. as I liken it to, Two drivers standing by their crashed vehicles arguing the toss over how much blame is caused by one or other driver whilst their passengers lie in the road bleeding to death!!!

An example from where I live. The railway surrounds the town and there are constant hold ups of traffic and gridlocks as the level crossings mean that all traffic is at a standstill. The answer should have been to have built a bridge over the railways to enable traffic to keep moving, but this would be expensive. So instead of grasping the nettle and seeing that whenever it was done, it would cost time and money but it would only get worse and more expensive, No .Both political parties ducked out and avoided the issue until the other side was in power and then they suggested that the job be done. This has gone on for years, now costs are even higher, the town is losing business as companies see the problems the railway will bring them and go elsewhere. So procrastination has simply let this problem continue with no change in the frustration and annoyance to the public. Well the same applies to the government, more attention to what the public see as important , less point scoring and looking at speeches, not for their content but to nit pick over the choice of words.
But then the dog in manger attitude is typical in particular with men. Thinking that the main aim is to see who can say "I.m the King of the Castle" instead of lets all mend the castle together before we do anything else!!

BlueBelle Tue 14-Jan-25 05:04:01

Well I knew who the GN er was who stared this thread without even looking 🤣🤣🤣