Healthy milk

But unhomogenised organic milk.

All we have to do is look at our forebears and consider their diet. They did well enough on it.

Full fat milk makes me feel nauseous, for some reason. It really does. So I only have skimmed now and feel fine on it.

I have an aversion to milk, probably dating back to school milk going slightly off in the sun. I will have skimmed in coffee (none in tea). We also have semi-skimmed, but only dh uses that, though I’ll use it in sauces.

Dh would happily use Gold Top, not that we ever have any - apparently he and his brothers used to fight about who had the cream off the top! Even the look of that makes me feel a bit ill.

IMO it’s genetic, though - My father wouldn’t touch milk in any shape or form, and my younger sister is even more averse than I am - she can’t bear butter, either.

My late MiL was like that - couldn't stand milk in any shape or form and couldn't abide butter either.

25Avalon

But unhomogenised organic milk.

Good advice.
I've read that allergies from milk and milk products come from the effects of killing the bugs with heat (or other methods I presume). They give off some kindness toxicity when they die which stays in the milk.

I don't know how well researched this is.

Plus as M0nica pointed out, once you have a problem with it, you never really get over the reaction your body has.

I've been buying raw organic milk for some time now. I haven't noticed a change one way or the other in my health so can't comment from that point of view.
I'm just happy to support small independent farmers where ever I can.

Witzend

I have an aversion to milk, probably dating back to school milk going slightly off in the sun. I will have skimmed in coffee (none in tea). We also have semi-skimmed, but only dh uses that, though I’ll use it in sauces.

Dh would happily use Gold Top, not that we ever have any - apparently he and his brothers used to fight about who had the cream off the top! Even the look of that makes me feel a bit ill.

IMO it’s genetic, though - My father wouldn’t touch milk in any shape or form, and my younger sister is even more averse than I am - she can’t bear butter, either.

Oh that’s a lovely memory the cream at the top of the bottle…no I didn’t like it either.. too sickly for me

mum2three

All we have to do is look at our forebears and consider their diet. They did well enough on it.

Yes you’re right …my uncles lived to 95 and 93 .. full fat milk straight from their cows.. butter, red meat and potatoes and lots bread and cake!

I hated milk until semi skimmed was introduced so I'll stick where I am. Zz

There was IMO a very good article in a recent Sunday Times about milk - by Jeremy Clarkson (yes, I know, but he does sometimes hit nails on heads) saying among other things that the supposedly ‘green’ almond milk favoured by people in Islington, uses 10,000 gallons of water per tree, much of which in the drought-ridden areas of California.

I have skimmed milk in tea and full fat organic for cooking and drinking,
I can remember as a child my GM always drank the cream off the top of her glass bottles of milk,, she had to have a leg amputated, not sure if it was connected..

The doctor advised me to drink skimmed milk because of high cholesterol, I have been doing so for 30 years. Full fat milk is a real treat, seems like full cream!

I drank practically nothing but full fat (4%) milk until I was seventeen and felt I should learn to like tea. My mum made tea like boot polish so it was quite hard and I initially took a lot of sugar in it!

But then I decided that as full cream milk is good for kids and also good for old people, it must be good for everyone else as well.

I'm not convinced by all the food fat scaremongering that goes on.

A friend who is a doctor/consultant told me that everyone should drink a glass of milk and eat a banana every day, That gives you most of the vitamins and minerals you need. A good diet for me with a handful of nuts.

I stopped drinking milk when they started homogensing it in the 1970s as not even full-fat milk tastes as it should, I do drink butter-milk, and I have always used cream in my coffee.

I have never believed all the advice about diet we were given, as it dawned upon me when I was in my twenties, that in the properous decades, potatoes are bad for you, but when a finacially difficult decades start, suddenly there is nothing but recipes for potatoes and pasta in women's magazines.

Butter was bad for us for years, and everything from mayonaise to cheese had to be "light" - now we are told this adulterated provisions are bad for us.

The truth of the matter is perhaps that barring allergies or other health issues we should eat what we want, as long as we do so in moderation.

And in case you are wondering, until I was 50 I weighed 50 kilos, since then I crept up to 56, then back down to 54, so eating butter and full-fat cheese, fat pork and such like hasn't given me a weight problem, presumably because I am one of those who just cannot put on weight, rather than because of what I eat.

Milest0ne

A friend who is a doctor/consultant told me that everyone should drink a glass of milk and eat a banana every day, That gives you most of the vitamins and minerals you need. A good diet for me with a handful of nuts.

Can’t drink a glass of any milk but do like my lattes and I do eat a small ( am quite averse to big bananas - put me off eating them) banana a day..yes I must be a bit bananas 🍌
Good to know Milest0ne am getting some vitamins and minerals.. just wish my bones agreed

I do like threads like this.
I tend to then modify slightly what I eat.

As a farmer's wife, I shouldn't be saying this - but - cows milk is specially produced by cows for baby cows. Once they are adults they stop drinking it.
Human milk is likewise intended for human babies, so why are we still drinking (cows) milk as adults?

True but we've been drinking cows' milk for thousands of years.

Milest0ne

A friend who is a doctor/consultant told me that everyone should drink a glass of milk and eat a banana every day, That gives you most of the vitamins and minerals you need. A good diet for me with a handful of nuts.

Doctors aren't usually nutritionists though.

I studied food science and nutrition as part of my degree so I'm aware that the biggest problem we have in diet is sugar not fat! However I don't like full fat milk and only buy it if DS and family visit. I use semi-skimmed but rarely drink it as just milk. I cook with it and put it in coffee. As someone else has said many low fat foods have extra sugar added to make them palatable. The 'Go Ahead' brand of cakes are very high in sugar. After years of eating according to what I know to be best my GP eventually told me I shouldn't worry about fat in my diet, just carbohydrates, especially sugar. I said nothing, but simply thought 'Yes I was right all along!'.

I hated 'school milk' and had to wait until the teacher turned her back and swap my bottle for my next door child's empty one. He actually liked the stuff and regularly drank mine. My MiL drove me nuts trying to get my DD to drink milk as a child. She insisted that she only refused it because I'd taught her not to like it, despite my having tried all ways to get her to drink it. She was horrified a few years later when her DS - now my ex- discovered he was lactose intolerant and no longer touches the stuff!

Allira

Milest0ne

A friend who is a doctor/consultant told me that everyone should drink a glass of milk and eat a banana every day, That gives you most of the vitamins and minerals you need. A good diet for me with a handful of nuts.

Doctors aren't usually nutritionists though.

Anyone can call themselves a nutritionist. A dietitian, on the other hand, has to be fully qualified and regulated.

Whatever next? I hope nobody decides that smoking is good for us anytime soon.

I always drink full fat milk. I make my yoghurt with Jersey milk so it's really creamy. When you remove fat you also remove many of the fat-soluble vitamins and some of the minerals from the food.

I completed my nutrition and dietetics degree in the early 90s (mature student not very young gran! 😄) when the fat-free fad been going for some years. I remember one of my professors commenting 'She (Rosemary Conley) is probably almost single-handedly responsible for generations of depressed women who are unable to process fat-soluble vitamins or make hormones'.

Have drunk only full cream Goats milk for many years now. Told a Doctor once answering one of his questions & he said that was ok as it is Goats milk which is better! Dont know about that just that it does not affect my stomach & it tastes much better!