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God bless America, Land of the free!

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Cossy Fri 24-Jan-25 22:35:49

God help America and all who live there’

Way back in the day (1976) I spent just over a year living and going to school in California. This was the best year of my childhood, so many positives for me, but sadly not my mother, who hated every moment.

I’ve returned for holidays several times to a few different states and have family and friends still living there.

I don’t recognise the place now! Females are no longer in control of bodies, babies will be born and unwanted and grow up miserable and probably in poverty, healthcare will be harder to get, gay couples, moslims, Hispanic, Mexicans will feel threatened regarding their future and possibly expelled from the country.

So much damage in such a short time, and more to come in a country where once anyone could become anything they chose, within reason.

God help America, land of the oppressed!

Sad times.

madeleine45 Fri 24-Jan-25 22:39:32

It was a shame that the aim only got the ear!! Cant think of a worse president but that is obviously the trend. Britain had a lying cheating prime minister who was arrogant enough to think that laws were only made for other people and we sae now another arrogant person who is a convicted criminal and they still voted him in!!

nanna8 Fri 24-Jan-25 22:42:12

I think that remark is disgusting and as bad as the things he comes out with, if not worse. He doesn’t wish anyone dead.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 24-Jan-25 22:48:32

Mike Pence?

Rowantree Fri 24-Jan-25 22:51:17

I have to agree with *madeleine*.

Very depressing and actually frightening too

LizzieDrip Fri 24-Jan-25 23:09:13

Cossy 👏👏👏👏

Syracute Fri 24-Jan-25 23:16:14

nanna8

I think that remark is disgusting and as bad as the things he comes out with, if not worse. He doesn’t wish anyone dead.

Well we now have had our first I.C.E. Raid in an elementary school ! Teachers are now not only have to be well versed in protecting their students against guns but their own government as well !! So if some of us wish that the gunman’s aim was a bit better at times with this last stunt, I hope you can’t blame us ! We are turning into an ugly fascist country . Disgusting and unacceptable !!

mum2three Sat 25-Jan-25 06:36:31

Trump would not now be in office if the previous president had done a better job! Just consider that fact before you condemn all who voted for him.

M0nica Sat 25-Jan-25 07:11:30

The Americans themselves voted for this current president, desspite everything said against him and he has a clear majority.

We just need to get over it and learn to live with it.

This is the USA today.

ronib Sat 25-Jan-25 07:21:24

Even if somehow Trump manages to get a third term as President- by rewriting the constitution- it still needs the American people to vote for him. Trump can’t do away with elections ….

Babs03 Sat 25-Jan-25 07:29:31

Well said Cossy, these will be dark days for the US and many other countries that will suffer in its shadow.

Grammaretto Sat 25-Jan-25 09:08:44

I feel your sadness Cossy but it isn't so new honestly.

My mother, recently widowed with 3 children was staying in a hotel in New York and became very sick (food
poisoning) she had her ticket home but no money to pay the hotel bill or for treatment.

She was told she had to leave. She then spent a week in the charity hospital in Brooklyn where she was well cared for.
When she returned home having toyed with the idea of living in the USA, decided it was not for her.

It was a great country for the fit and healthy, those aspirational and young, but if you were poor and sick or both (or black or hispanic)
It wasn't for you.
That was 1957.

Cossy Sat 25-Jan-25 09:12:49

mum2three

Trump would not now be in office if the previous president had done a better job! Just consider that fact before you condemn all who voted for him.

What did or didn’t Biden do in your opinion? Should Obama also “had done a better job”?

Do you live in the UK mumof3?

Cossy Sat 25-Jan-25 09:14:24

Grammaretto

I feel your sadness Cossy but it isn't so new honestly.

My mother, recently widowed with 3 children was staying in a hotel in New York and became very sick (food
poisoning) she had her ticket home but no money to pay the hotel bill or for treatment.

She was told she had to leave. She then spent a week in the charity hospital in Brooklyn where she was well cared for.
When she returned home having toyed with the idea of living in the USA, decided it was not for her.

It was a great country for the fit and healthy, those aspirational and young, but if you were poor and sick or both (or black or hispanic)
It wasn't for you.
That was 1957.

Yes, I do agree with that, but I had a wonderful time. You’re so right about the racism and lack of healthcare and my experiences were very good.

Galaxy Sat 25-Jan-25 09:14:47

What does where people live have to do with it

Cossy Sat 25-Jan-25 09:15:12

ronib

Even if somehow Trump manages to get a third term as President- by rewriting the constitution- it still needs the American people to vote for him. Trump can’t do away with elections ….

Can’t he? He seems to think he can bin whatever he chooses!

love0c Sat 25-Jan-25 09:15:13

Madeleine45 Shame on you!!!!!

Cossy Sat 25-Jan-25 09:17:19

Galaxy

What does where people live have to do with it

People living in the USA will have a completely different perspective to us living in the UK, both positive and negative.

I’d love to hear from our GNs across the Pond and I’m also curious as to why people who might have no connection with the USA value Trump so highly.

Galaxy Sat 25-Jan-25 09:21:09

But the same could be said in the opposite direction - why are people who have no connection with the states so consumed by him.

Eloethan Sat 25-Jan-25 09:29:04

Because, as his recent pronouncements demonstrate, his actions and ambitions are not confined to the USA.

pascal30 Sat 25-Jan-25 09:32:37

love0c

Madeleine45 Shame on you!!!!!

Why?

love0c Sat 25-Jan-25 09:37:01

pascal30 'Why'?????? Good grief! Her first sentence! I do wonder if some posters on here. post comments purely to get a reaction. I shudder to think they actually mean what they post!

Claremont Sat 25-Jan-25 09:42:55

nanna8

I think that remark is disgusting and as bad as the things he comes out with, if not worse. He doesn’t wish anyone dead.

Are you sure? He does not care what happens to hispanics or native Indians.

But yes, this is a difficult one.

I do believe that many, even Trum supporters or those on the right to far right even- would agree now that if the attempt on Hitler's life had been successful, it would have been the better outcome, and saved so many thousands of lives.

Wyllow3 Sat 25-Jan-25 09:54:39

Galaxy

But the same could be said in the opposite direction - why are people who have no connection with the states so consumed by him.

Firstly because what he does may affect us directly in the short term.
Secondly because the far right in the UK admire many if not most of his politics, and some seek to import them so I want to see exactly what happens when they are enacted, the everyday consequences.

pascal30 Sat 25-Jan-25 09:56:23

love0c

pascal30 'Why'?????? Good grief! Her first sentence! I do wonder if some posters on here. post comments purely to get a reaction. I shudder to think they actually mean what they post!

You don't seem to realise that your views are in the minority..