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6 Months On From The Election.....

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mae13 Sun 02-Feb-25 23:40:57

.......and the charity foodbanks are apparently busier than ever.

The government - supposedly Socialist - are actively avoiding any reference to them, as if they are embarrassed by these facilities continuing existence when Starmer promised to deliver "Change".

Really? Labour is so much similar to the Tories that you couldn't get a bus ticket between them.

Do Starmer, Reeves and Rayner know where their nearest foodbank is?

Cossy Mon 03-Feb-25 18:51:32

LizzieDrip

Or do you mean these mae13 and eazybee:

eastangliabylines.co.uk/politics/the-first-6-months-what-has-labour-actually-done/

I’d actually say that’s quite a lot for 6 or so months.

Cossy Mon 03-Feb-25 18:49:25

Casdon

Other than an above inflation minimum wage rise and this do you mean mae13?
www.gov.uk/government/news/15-million-to-help-charities-get-spare-produce-to-those-in-need

😊😊

Cossy Mon 03-Feb-25 18:48:23

Casdon

Isn’t a community cupboard available to anybody, as a means of reducing food waste, rather than a foodbank, for which people have to be eligible though? I’d expect a lot of people would use a community cupboard to get free food?

Yes it is available to all, whether in need or not, one of its aims is to help reduce food waste.

Cossy Mon 03-Feb-25 18:46:53

keepingquiet

This government never proclaimed itself as socialist.

When Corbyn was leader he was hated for being too left and almost a Marxist. We lost an election and that was a disaster for this country.

Labour can't win. If they are left and socialist they lose votes, if they are centre and to the right they are labelled as just like the Tories.

Whichever, they will be accused of messing up, even when they have sound and even forward looking policies.

We were warned that things wouldn't get better very quickly, but people are used to the short-termism (which is a mirage anyway- look how long brexit took) and short-sighted policies that only make things better for those on the make.

We need stability and slow but steady change.

I think I'm wasting my time though, because this is probably just another thread for having a go...

Indeed it is! What did the previous govt achieve in their first 6 months??

I’m still waiting patiently for some positive results, which I think we won’t see for at least another year.

Iam64 Mon 03-Feb-25 18:46:40

At risk of sounding naive/too leftie/a bit daft or with worse memory problems than I know I have ……. I remember attacks from ‘some of us’ on the Conservatives that were based on reality.
Like Cameron’s unnecessary austerity agenda wrecking public services, leading to the nhs/children’s services/adult social care/every aspect of the CJS / mental health/substance misuse services etc etc being effectively demolished.
Like Johnson’s number 10 partying while her majesty sat alone at her husband’s funeral

Some posters ( you know who you are) just want a good moan; scaremongering that Starmer is a Stalinist - don’t be daftn

Casdon Mon 03-Feb-25 18:41:48

Isn’t a community cupboard available to anybody, as a means of reducing food waste, rather than a foodbank, for which people have to be eligible though? I’d expect a lot of people would use a community cupboard to get free food?

Iam64 Mon 03-Feb-25 18:39:54

nanna8

Starmer would support that.

Absolute nonsense

Whingey Mon 03-Feb-25 18:39:11

Our community cupboard has a queue all the time

winterwhite Mon 03-Feb-25 18:28:28

You're right keeping quiet it's the inability to plan securely for more than 4 years that stymies steady growth. I don't know what the answer is except for more serious cross-party involvement in major projects, and keeping the relevant ministers in place for the lifetime of the parliament.

Rachel Reeves is signing up to railways and runways and reservoirs that will take a decade or more to build. Should Labour lose in 2028/29 (I sincerely hope they won't) and these schemes be under way but abandoned by an incoming government, then where will we be. Half the country dug up to no avail.

Chocolatelovinggran Mon 03-Feb-25 17:31:02

The foodbank I volunteer at isn't busier than ever: just saying.

maddyone Mon 03-Feb-25 13:05:38

I was reacting (with an element of sarcasm) to the post which claimed

if government attackers are allowed to get away with being more vocal

As you say Casdon, government attackers should be allowed to have their say, just as government supporters should. Only censorship would prevent government attackers from having freedom of speech.

Casdon Mon 03-Feb-25 12:06:37

Oreo

maddyone

if government attackers are allowed to get away with being more vocal

Perhaps free speech should be outlawed. People shouldn’t be allowed to express their opinions.

Or only certain posters allowed to post 🤔
I bet there were plenty of grumbles on here when the Conservatives were last voted in, or am I wrong?
There’s room for all opinions on how this Labour government is doing and what we all think of their policies and performance.

Of course, there’s room for everybody, and that includes those who want to post about their pet hates, be it Brexit, Starmer, Blair, Johnson, Truss, Trump - or whatever. As long as they don’t lie about information that is factual.

Claremont Mon 03-Feb-25 12:00:07

nanna8

Change for better or for worse?

not easy to make positive changes after 14 years of disastrous ones, and not only coffers empty, but massive debts acrued on top.

Oreo Mon 03-Feb-25 11:54:18

maddyone

^if government attackers are allowed to get away with being more vocal^

Perhaps free speech should be outlawed. People shouldn’t be allowed to express their opinions.

Or only certain posters allowed to post 🤔
I bet there were plenty of grumbles on here when the Conservatives were last voted in, or am I wrong?
There’s room for all opinions on how this Labour government is doing and what we all think of their policies and performance.

nanna8 Mon 03-Feb-25 11:45:16

Starmer would support that.

maddyone Mon 03-Feb-25 11:42:44

if government attackers are allowed to get away with being more vocal

Perhaps free speech should be outlawed. People shouldn’t be allowed to express their opinions.

LizzieDrip Mon 03-Feb-25 08:39:30

”Because facts would burst their bubble”

Hear, hear growstuff👏👏👏

growstuff Mon 03-Feb-25 08:19:22

Casdon

Why don’t people check the facts before they post?

Because facts would burst their bubble.

growstuff Mon 03-Feb-25 08:18:51

No, you're not wasting your time keepingquiet. If government attackers are allowed to get away with being more vocal, people might begin to believe them (I think some already have). People need to be reminded what the government is doing - unfortunately, the government's PR is rubbish.

Casdon Mon 03-Feb-25 08:14:02

Why don’t people check the facts before they post?

keepingquiet Mon 03-Feb-25 08:12:06

This government never proclaimed itself as socialist.

When Corbyn was leader he was hated for being too left and almost a Marxist. We lost an election and that was a disaster for this country.

Labour can't win. If they are left and socialist they lose votes, if they are centre and to the right they are labelled as just like the Tories.

Whichever, they will be accused of messing up, even when they have sound and even forward looking policies.

We were warned that things wouldn't get better very quickly, but people are used to the short-termism (which is a mirage anyway- look how long brexit took) and short-sighted policies that only make things better for those on the make.

We need stability and slow but steady change.

I think I'm wasting my time though, because this is probably just another thread for having a go...

petra Mon 03-Feb-25 08:10:23

That’s disgraceful. 6 months on and they haven’t fixed everything the tories ruined over the past 14 years.
Has anyone got a magic wand they could lend the Labour Party 🤷‍♀️

LizzieDrip Mon 03-Feb-25 08:09:17

Or do you mean these mae13 and eazybee:

eastangliabylines.co.uk/politics/the-first-6-months-what-has-labour-actually-done/

Casdon Mon 03-Feb-25 08:02:35

Other than an above inflation minimum wage rise and this do you mean mae13?
www.gov.uk/government/news/15-million-to-help-charities-get-spare-produce-to-those-in-need

eazybee Mon 03-Feb-25 07:58:03

The driving principle for voting in the last election was to get the Tories out; (I understand why) but many excellent MPs lost their seats, Labour has an unwarranted huge majority, there is no viable opposition and they are daily demonstrating their inadequacy in government.
Be careful what you wish for.