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Whingey Sun 09-Feb-25 17:59:36

From a book read on a radio station. Children playing in east London street in 1960s and a little girl asks her mother if she can show Elizabeth round. Mum is upstairs and says OK. Hears Elizabeth saying ooh whats that several times. Comes downstairs and is horrified at how filthy she is. Put her in the bath and her clothes were crawling with lice so she burned them. Dressed her in daughters clothes but kept her headband. Then Elizabeth disappears. Daughter said she was in the toilet but she was gone. The headband was from 1850s.so she went back in clean clothes and had no idea where she had been.

Silvertwigs Tue 11-Feb-25 16:16:40

Me too! 🤣

Mojack26 Tue 11-Feb-25 14:51:42

🤣

wibblywobblywobblebottom Tue 11-Feb-25 14:08:00

True story my Aunt Petunia!

Whingey Mon 10-Feb-25 18:04:41

Ghost lice 😨

Barleyfields Mon 10-Feb-25 17:52:19

I have also heard very credible accounts of apparent time slips, and I do believe in life after death, a spirit world. However someone from the spirit world bringing with them physical items from their time on earth which remain after they disappear again (the headband) is something I find very hard to believe. Nevertheless, there are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio …

Cadenza123 Mon 10-Feb-25 17:10:12

I've no knowledge of this story but I have heard perfectly rational people talking about time slips and this does sound like the sort of thing they describe except she was there for a long time if she had a bath and change of clothes!

Indigo8 Mon 10-Feb-25 15:16:46

What you see in some of the pictures is a length of ribbon tied round her head with a bow visible in some pictures but not in others.

Indigo8 Mon 10-Feb-25 15:14:03

Whingey

Alice in wonderland published in 1865 shows her with a headband. Material would not be elastic but it was called an Alice band. In reply to another poster it was a library book and I think the station was 📻 Nottingham but can't check online

In the original drawings that Lewis Carroll did for Alice and the published illustrations by Sir John Tenniel Alice has long hair worn loose and brushed back from her face but no head band.

Witzend Mon 10-Feb-25 13:59:26

Does anyone know the title of the story? I’d like to find it!

NonGrannyMoll Mon 10-Feb-25 13:39:52

Where on earth did this come from and how was it presented so that (allegedly) people regard it as a factual anecdote rather than a not-very-convincing story concocted for "Spooky Goings-On Weekly" magazine?
Provenance?
Evidence?
Verifiable facts from reliable witnesses?
Point of posting it on GN now rather than at Hallowe'en?

Eloethan Mon 10-Feb-25 13:32:51

I've never heard of it before, and don't believe it.

However, some of the experiences recalled on the programme "Uncanny" do sound as if they were genuine experiences, though possibly misinterpreted.

AGAA4 Mon 10-Feb-25 11:50:55

Good story but just that - a story. Never heard of ghost lice 🤔

Allira Mon 10-Feb-25 11:27:09

School rules- hair could not be left loose, it either had to be short or tied back in a pony tail or plaits.
If not, it got tied up with a piece of string by an irate teacher who would pull you to the front of the class by your hair.
I cannot imagine any 16 year old allowing a teacher to do that now! And quite right too.

merlotgran Mon 10-Feb-25 11:21:54

Allira

I can remember making myself Alice bands from material left from when my mother made my summer dresses.
They were made from a folded strip of fabric with some elastic to join the two ends.

I was too much of a tomboy to ever wear an Alice band but I remember school uniform rules stating they had to be black - fabric or plastic.

Allira Mon 10-Feb-25 11:16:22

I can remember making myself Alice bands from material left from when my mother made my summer dresses.
They were made from a folded strip of fabric with some elastic to join the two ends.

Allira Mon 10-Feb-25 11:10:42

Whingey

Alice in wonderland published in 1865 shows her with a headband. Material would not be elastic but it was called an Alice band. In reply to another poster it was a library book and I think the station was 📻 Nottingham but can't check online

In the original illustrations of Alice in Alice in Wonderland she is not wearing a headband. She is wearing one in Alice Through the Looking Glass.

henetha Mon 10-Feb-25 11:01:11

PS. Sorry, Elizabeth was Queen by then. I'm not concentrating this morning. confused

henetha Mon 10-Feb-25 10:56:37

I also thought it was going to be little Princess Elizabeth. smile

M0nica Mon 10-Feb-25 10:43:12

Whingey

Alice in wonderland published in 1865 shows her with a headband. Material would not be elastic but it was called an Alice band. In reply to another poster it was a library book and I think the station was 📻 Nottingham but can't check online

The Alice band that Alice-in-Woderland wears would have been a long ribbon tied under her hair at the back, so when taken off would not have been a hairband but a hair ribon.

I can remember my mother tying a ribbon round my hair in that way.

Cossy Mon 10-Feb-25 09:25:28

Allira

Oh, how disappointing.

I thought it was going to be a true story and Elizabeth was going to be HM Queen Elizabeth II or her mother, the Queen Mother, on an impromptu visit to the East End.

Me too 😂😂😂

nanna8 Mon 10-Feb-25 09:04:07

I have some very,very old pictures of our ancestors well before 1900 - I think around 1860-70 and some of the girls have ribbons in their hair. Not quite headbands but you could tie a ribbon like a band. I never believed in ghosts until I saw one of a young man who had suicided at the age of 17. I just thought it was him in our house and then realised he had actually died a week or so earlier. My daughter saw him,too. Not scary, just plain weird.

Whingey Mon 10-Feb-25 08:17:41

Alice in wonderland published in 1865 shows her with a headband. Material would not be elastic but it was called an Alice band. In reply to another poster it was a library book and I think the station was 📻 Nottingham but can't check online

Babs03 Mon 10-Feb-25 07:31:33

Girls did not wear headbands or hair bands in 1850, women who always had to wear their hair up may have used something like this, obviously not like hair bands we know. But a girl would wear her hair down. Also if this ghost girl was so poor and dishevelled she really wouldn’t possess any thing to put in her hair anyway.
I thought it would Queen Elizabeth too.

M0nica Mon 10-Feb-25 07:24:54

Anyway, there is nothing to stop a modern child having a hair band dating back to 1850. Except that I do not think girls wore hairbands in 1850. Ribbons in and around their hair, but not hair bands because, not only was elastic as we know it and used in hairbands not developed until the turn of the 19/20 centuries, but neither was plastic or other flexible hard material.

Allira Mon 10-Feb-25 00:06:50

Actually, I do remain open-minded about spirits and ghosts but would be sceptical about a physical object appearing such as a headband.