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Starmer boxed in by farmers in Milton Keynes today. 🚜

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FriedGreenTomatoes2 Thu 13-Feb-25 17:04:51

Apparently he was on site to view one of the ‘100 sites’ and the tractors blocked his exit, necessitating a helicopter landing to whisk him away.

Mind you, perhaps (probably) his transport was pre-booked anyway! Maybe.

Allira Thu 13-Feb-25 20:31:37

flappergirl

Allira

Claremont

Of course we all know it, and they know it too. They are being manipulated by the minority of big, rich ones, the minority that will have to pay- quite rightly - and 50% less than all of us.

No they are not

You make farmers sound like idiots. 🤬

Well, if the cap fits. They did all vote for Brexit despite the advice of their own union. Farmers are milking this (if you'll pardon the pun) and the public needs to check the facts before they cry too many tears over them.

Well we'll all be crying one day when there's no food on the shelves.

Think on.

Allira Thu 13-Feb-25 20:30:15

Devorgilla

When I see these protests with such heavy machinery I do wonder about the damage to pavements and roads, and even the building structures. Wonder who will pay to repair any damage?

Ah, shame.

What about the damage being caused to food production, food miles and food security?

Mollygo Thu 13-Feb-25 20:19:49

Devorgilla

When I see these protests with such heavy machinery I do wonder about the damage to pavements and roads, and even the building structures. Wonder who will pay to repair any damage?

The same people who pay for the non-repair of our pavements and roads, damaged by any traffic.

Devorgilla Thu 13-Feb-25 20:13:13

When I see these protests with such heavy machinery I do wonder about the damage to pavements and roads, and even the building structures. Wonder who will pay to repair any damage?

Churchview Thu 13-Feb-25 20:06:00

Freya5

I believe this tax on our farmers was from his advice alone. Much like, the "old codgers should be taxed more", advice came from one man alone. Who the hell are they in their smug little world.
Talking to two complete strangers, they and their friends are appalled by what this Gov is doing to the country.

What is the 'old codgers should be taxed more' advice and what man was that please?

Churchview Thu 13-Feb-25 19:55:01

Allira

^Dr Arun Advani, director of Centre for the Analysis of Taxation^

Does that person know anything about food production and food security?

I doubt it.

He wasn't three to advise on food production or security. His job was to report to the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Committee on the numbers and classification of people who had claimed agricultural exemption.

Ilovecheese Thu 13-Feb-25 19:50:10

Farmers do seem to have a lot of free time to spend protesting.........

Freya5 Thu 13-Feb-25 19:46:59

I believe this tax on our farmers was from his advice alone. Much like, the "old codgers should be taxed more", advice came from one man alone. Who the hell are they in their smug little world.
Talking to two complete strangers, they and their friends are appalled by what this Gov is doing to the country.

flappergirl Thu 13-Feb-25 19:44:52

Allira

Claremont

Of course we all know it, and they know it too. They are being manipulated by the minority of big, rich ones, the minority that will have to pay- quite rightly - and 50% less than all of us.

No they are not

You make farmers sound like idiots. 🤬

Well, if the cap fits. They did all vote for Brexit despite the advice of their own union. Farmers are milking this (if you'll pardon the pun) and the public needs to check the facts before they cry too many tears over them.

Freya5 Thu 13-Feb-25 19:37:38

Allira

^Dr Arun Advani, director of Centre for the Analysis of Taxation^

Does that person know anything about food production and food security?

I doubt it.

A left wing "expert". Knows nothing re farming. A Governmeent mouthpiece.

Rula Thu 13-Feb-25 19:30:08

Farmers have my 100% support as well.

Witzend Thu 13-Feb-25 19:28:00

kittylester

GrannyGravy13

Unfortunately farmers have been taken for granted in the developed world for far too long.

I support them 100%

I agree GG.

Me too.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 13-Feb-25 19:17:33

MayBee70 not all farmers are like your neighbour, definitely not the ones DH knows.

MayBee70 Thu 13-Feb-25 19:15:24

My very rich farmer neighbour charges me for work he does on trees that overhang my property and cause no end of problems. I feel as though I should doff my cap when I speak to him. A farmer near to where my partner lives rents out a field to caravans, motor homes etc. The electricity is dangerous and he does nothing about it. The water supply is contaminated and, although he has been fined for it to my knowledge it is still dangerous. He’s had calves euthanised several times because he can’t be bothered to get them tagged. Not all farmers are saints.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 13-Feb-25 19:14:08

Wyllow3 I wonder if there is a disconnect for some reason.

Ready meals on supermarket shelves have little resemblance to food from farms.

The world has changed dramatically, I hope it reverts to cooking from scratch.

Piskey Thu 13-Feb-25 19:12:15

I’m trying to figure out the government’s mindset for this desperate drive to Net Zero.
The carbon footprint of the wood pellets delivered to the Drax Power Station are added onto Canada’s total. Think they are in the 20% + percentage.
Meanwhile we build ever increasing numbers of wind turbines ( no mention of the tons of concrete, thousands of gallons of oil to drive them, and the fact the blades are non recyclable. The same with solar panels which are covering good farmland , instead of using the millions of roofs nationwide. The cutting down of millions of trees nationwide.
It takes a particular warped mind- in order to reach Net Zero and No 1 in the world - for the current government who’s next step would be to stop the exports of any food/fruit/meat / animals (tax the farmer IHT ) and businesses of other products, plus sky high raises - Nic’s, business rates, energy and raising hourly rates of pay, etc leaving the U.K. at the mercy of the world for food, energy and other commodities.
Any sane person would think these were deliberate actions being put into place by a government that was gaslighting the population. I could be wrong and everything is hunky dory in the minds of the elite who rule us

Wyllow3 Thu 13-Feb-25 19:00:45

The point about the world wide protests suggests food supply chains, supermarket domination, corporate buy up of land world wide (as in the article I posted) points to far deeper issues than IHT.

We've had so many farming threads about the many factors in the UK, but now realise that although there are differing styles of government the farmers are facing squeezes on prices world wide and at the same time people unable - or unwilling - to pay higher prices at supermarkets.

Rosie51 Thu 13-Feb-25 18:49:52

Claremont

Stopped traffic, ambulances, police, and more.

Green fighting for the planet would have been arrested and put in prison! The hypocrisy is staggering.

Can you give a link to the source of this information please, as I've been unable to find any reports of ambulances , police and more being stopped by the protest? It may be you've found a reliable source but I can't find a single reference to any such disruption.

kittylester Thu 13-Feb-25 18:42:26

GrannyGravy13

Unfortunately farmers have been taken for granted in the developed world for far too long.

I support them 100%

I agree GG.

Rula Thu 13-Feb-25 18:34:26

www.maplecroft.com/products-and-solutions/geopolitical-and-country-risk/insights/farmer-protests-in-europe-increase-300/

Yep, big problems. And no, farmers aren't stupid at all. They most certainly aren't being manipulated.

sarahanne Thu 13-Feb-25 18:33:13

I saw this had happened on the news.

keepingquiet Thu 13-Feb-25 18:32:53

Shops in Australia are empty of food?

What- all of them?

In the whole country?

I have lots of family there as well as friends on holiday and they all seem to be eating pretty well...

Wyllow3 Thu 13-Feb-25 18:32:17

Its actually world wide protests, all the year.

waronwant.org/news-analysis/why-global-farmers-protests-matter

Rula Thu 13-Feb-25 18:29:52

Is Europe being whipped up by Farage?

Try researching farmers protests in the EU last year

Rula Thu 13-Feb-25 18:28:40

There was some incredible protests across Europe last year. Very little shown on MSM of course.