Gransnet forums

Chat

Trump Gaza

(64 Posts)
JenniferEccles Wed 26-Feb-25 10:35:02

Donald Trump has allegedly released an AI generated video of Gaza in the future which is so bizarre I think it must be a spoof/hoax.

Babs03 Wed 26-Feb-25 12:24:19

Everything about the Trump administration is like an extremely sick spoof, but it isn’t, it is a surreal snapshot of a fascist despot and his entourage.

woodenspoon Wed 26-Feb-25 12:28:53

I expect next will be Trump Ukraine resort!

Cossy Wed 26-Feb-25 12:38:20

Babs03

Everything about the Trump administration is like an extremely sick spoof, but it isn’t, it is a surreal snapshot of a fascist despot and his entourage.

Absolutely agree.

The problem is sometimes others don’t see the bigger picture!

I’m reminded of Hitler’s Germany and all awful events since, including things we’ve possibly forgotten, Rwanda, Afganistan, the desparate fighting and camps in Yugoslavia.

Dies it ever end? Do humans ever learn?

Babs03 Wed 26-Feb-25 12:58:50

@Cossy, not only don’t human beings learn, leaders today have much more power in their grasp thanks to AI, cyber war fare and social media. The internet is becoming the new nukes. Is truly scary.

JenniferEccles Wed 26-Feb-25 14:27:51

Much as I dislike this video, as there are no other proposals for the Gaza site, (as far as I know) Trump’s plan is the only one on the table.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 26-Feb-25 14:48:25

JenniferEccles

Much as I dislike this video, as there are no other proposals for the Gaza site, (as far as I know) Trump’s plan is the only one on the table.

Of course it isn’t. A two state solution has always been on the table, but the Israeli’s have never supported it.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 26-Feb-25 14:51:42

At a stroke, Trump is not only wiping out a whole population, but their way of life, culture etc will be lost. That goes for the West Bank as well.

Oreo Wed 26-Feb-25 14:52:56

GrannyGravy13

I have seen it several times now, totally AI generated including POTUS on a sun lounger next to Benjamin Netanyahu (both in swim trunks) and Elon Musk tucking into dinner…

Yeah, it’s a spoof.

Oreo Wed 26-Feb-25 14:55:47

Whitewavemark2

JenniferEccles

Much as I dislike this video, as there are no other proposals for the Gaza site, (as far as I know) Trump’s plan is the only one on the table.

Of course it isn’t. A two state solution has always been on the table, but the Israeli’s have never supported it.

And you can see why now!
Allowing the people their choice of government, hamas got over a thousand Israelis murdered and over two hundred taken as hostages.
A two State solution wouldn’t work.

Anniebach Wed 26-Feb-25 14:56:02

Quote GrannyGravy13 Wed 26-Feb-25 10:57:10
I have seen it several times now, totally AI generated including POTUS on a sun lounger next to Benjamin Netanyahu (both in swim trunks) and Elon Musk tucking into dinner…

Good grief , yet some believe it to be true

Babs03 Wed 26-Feb-25 15:04:51

news.sky.com/story/amp/trump-shares-ai-video-of-gaza-vision-featuring-golden-statues-bearded-belly-dancers-and-netanyahu-on-a-sunbed-13317241

It was generated by Trump, it is not someone else’s idea of a spoof. The politics show also provided thus information.
Of course we know it isn’t real, Gaza is a demolition site but the AI generated vid does come from Trump.

Babs03 Wed 26-Feb-25 15:06:41

@Oreo I suggest you check the facts first.
This is no spoof, Trump sent this AI generated vid.
Just google it, is all over every news outlet and they all say the same.

Wyllow3 Wed 26-Feb-25 15:07:07

Its not "true", as its AI...

...... but its a representation of a POV that Trump/Musk that is a "truth" of how they see Gaza'a future or ir wouldn't have remained up on "Truth" Social.

Allira Wed 26-Feb-25 15:08:51

Babs03

@Oreo I suggest you check the facts first.
This is no spoof, Trump sent this AI generated vid.
Just google it, is all over every news outlet and they all say the same.

If he wasn't real, I'd say Trump was a spoof, AI generated by Putin or Musk.

Are we sure he's real?

Oreo Wed 26-Feb-25 15:15:49

Wyllow3

Its not "true", as its AI...

...... but its a representation of a POV that Trump/Musk that is a "truth" of how they see Gaza'a future or ir wouldn't have remained up on "Truth" Social.

It must have amused them to put it on Truth Social, both Trump and Musk are both idiots.A fan must have made it for them, looks amateurish.

Boz Wed 26-Feb-25 15:22:24

Oreo

Whitewavemark2

JenniferEccles

Much as I dislike this video, as there are no other proposals for the Gaza site, (as far as I know) Trump’s plan is the only one on the table.

Of course it isn’t. A two state solution has always been on the table, but the Israeli’s have never supported it.

And you can see why now!
Allowing the people their choice of government, hamas got over a thousand Israelis murdered and over two hundred taken as hostages.
A two State solution wouldn’t work.

I totally agree with Oreo. The two-state system would never, ever work with so much hatred and mistrust that has been there from day one.
Some people have a wonderful belief in human nature which might one day prevail. The current World climate does not seem to be moving in that direction. Money and Power is King.

Wyllow3 Wed 26-Feb-25 15:25:32

Its "funny" at first glance until you realise how offensive it actually is, which is probably why its still "up" - its provocative.

valdali Wed 26-Feb-25 15:32:36

It was on the BBC politics programme at lunch, the version cirulating does come from Trump's social media.
America are not the only powerful country in the world. I think because mediating world peace / war has been left to America for so long (is that the Pax Americana?) they think they rule the world. American culture may have some pretensions to do that, but actually America the state doesn't.
Yes it's stupid & provoking. Yes if he built it the tourists would come, recent ethnic cleansing & genocide forgotten. But I don't believe the world will stand by & let this happen. In some less visible corner like Cambodia & Pol Pot, the refugees in ethiopia, unfortunately these things pass, but Israel / Palestine? There really will be all hell let loose if Trump / Netanyahu try it.

Babs03 Wed 26-Feb-25 15:42:46

valdali

It was on the BBC politics programme at lunch, the version cirulating does come from Trump's social media.
America are not the only powerful country in the world. I think because mediating world peace / war has been left to America for so long (is that the Pax Americana?) they think they rule the world. American culture may have some pretensions to do that, but actually America the state doesn't.
Yes it's stupid & provoking. Yes if he built it the tourists would come, recent ethnic cleansing & genocide forgotten. But I don't believe the world will stand by & let this happen. In some less visible corner like Cambodia & Pol Pot, the refugees in ethiopia, unfortunately these things pass, but Israel / Palestine? There really will be all hell let loose if Trump / Netanyahu try it.

I would like to believe that all hell will break loose if they try it but tbh a lot has been done to Gaza and the people there already that I thought would make all hell break loose, however, am still waiting for that to happen, it seems a long time coming, and so I wonder what actually will make all hell break loose. Maybe this resort will be built and Gaza will become like Dubai. I honestly don’t think it really matters anymore to anyone what happens to Gaza, do we even continue to count the dead or the newborn babies who died from hypothermia?

Anniebach Wed 26-Feb-25 16:03:27

Babies died from hypothermia as told by medics who are employed by Hamas

JenniferEccles Wed 26-Feb-25 16:12:28

Of course the two state idea wouldn’t work. Israel will always be at risk of another horrific attack all the time Palestinians run by Hamas are in Gaza.

Another solution must be found.

Babs03 Wed 26-Feb-25 16:22:19

Anniebach

Babies died from hypothermia as told by medics who are employed by Hamas

Ok Annie but I don’t know how you can know that anymore than I can. I can only base this on the fact that newborns are being cared for in refugee camps where the weather can be really cold at this time of year. So the news of newborn fatalities from hypothermia does not seem unusual.
Above and beyond that, like you, and like all of us, we can only go off what is in the news.

keepingquiet Wed 26-Feb-25 16:27:35

I wish everything since 2016 was an AI simulation...

LizzieDrip Wed 26-Feb-25 16:31:35

This AI generated video put out by Trump (and/or his team) on Truth Social is absolutely sickening.

Boz Wed 26-Feb-25 16:43:09

Babs03

Anniebach

Babies died from hypothermia as told by medics who are employed by Hamas

Ok Annie but I don’t know how you can know that anymore than I can. I can only base this on the fact that newborns are being cared for in refugee camps where the weather can be really cold at this time of year. So the news of newborn fatalities from hypothermia does not seem unusual.
Above and beyond that, like you, and like all of us, we can only go off what is in the news.

The problem with that is that we all pick the pieces of news that suits our own agenda. Very obvious on GN. The Arab world shuns Palastine; too much trouble, by the way.