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FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sun 09-Mar-25 11:17:19

WES STREETING has refused to intervene in an NHS puberty blocker trial despite concerns about children’s safety.

The drugs were banned last year in the wake of the independent Cass Review, which found no evidence to support their use and warned they may also disrupt brain development.

But an NHS trial to examine the evidence around their use in children is awaiting the green light from the ethics regulator, which controversially approved a pilot into the drugs in 2011 but failed to ensure the results were shared.

Some 6,000 children are on the national gender clinic waiting list and could be eligible to receive the drugs if their clinical team and parents agree.

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SIR KEIR STARMER’S plans to reset relations with the European Union risk dealing a £1 billion blow to farmers, senior Tories have warned.

The Prime Minister has been urged not to throw British growers “under the bus” by agreeing to adopt overly restrictive EU red tape. Brussels is demanding the UK agrees to copy its agricultural rules in return for a deal that would reduce checks on food exports. But agreeing to the terms risks killing off a booming UK industry centred on developing new drought and pest-resistant crops, as a world leader in research on gene-edited fruit and vegetables.

The development, which is already worth £1 billion a year to the economy and has boosted harvests by 1 per cent, is only possible because of Brexit. Gene-edited crops are subject to a de facto ban in the EU, where they are subject to such stringent red tape that they are impossible to grow at scale. Britain would have to revert to effectively banning them if it were to sign up to mirroring Europe’s rules on agriculture.

Jerome Mayhew, the shadow business minister, said: “Attempts to get closer to the EU risk throwing our farmers and scientific communities under the bus ... The Labour-EU love-in must draw the line at watering down UK progress on precision breeding.”

A Defra spokesman said: “This Government recognises that food security is national security. That’s why we have laid legislation to enact the Precision Breeding Act for plants [to ensure] our agriculture sector will be at the forefront of innovation across the world.”

(both from articles in the Sunday Telegraph today which I find concern, now I’ve switched my allegiance back to Labour).

What do other Labour voters think about these two issues?

Galaxy Mon 10-Mar-25 15:53:06

It is interesting , Richard Holden who is putting forward the bill was my local MP, he is unpleasant on many levels, however he also put forward a bill against virginity testing, there was some kickback against that as well.

Casdon Mon 10-Mar-25 16:01:36

Galaxy

I think it is deep racism to support something that we would not accept for our own children. It again falls into the whole luxury belief thing. You are putting women in particular into a life that is almost impossible.

I’m not sure what you mean by saying this would not be accepted for our own children, because in our society it is? How would we even know if somebody we know has married their cousin, how rare is it? Worldwide it is 10%. Education about the risks to children has to be the way forward, surely.

Iam64 Mon 10-Mar-25 16:02:06

There’s a difference between actively supporting something and legislating to prevent it. Reluctantly accepting the decision not to legislate but to educate, in no way equates to support

Galaxy Mon 10-Mar-25 18:09:31

Yes thats a fair point Iam64. But the impact is in a sense the same, we know the communities this happens in, so we are by default ensuring that they remain more disadvantaged. I think proposed new legislation is often seen as 'not likely to work' . I remember similar being said about drink driving, smoking ban etc.
There is also something about values that is hard to articulate, it is important to be clear about the values that we as a society think are important.

Iam64 Mon 10-Mar-25 20:26:53

Good points Galaxy. I remember drink driving shifting from drinking a couple to always having a designated driver.
Work to influence against FGM less than successful. I still believe education is the way forward with cousin marriage but accept it’s fine balance