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Why is Gardener's World rubbish now?!!

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Ilovedogs22 Sun 16-Mar-25 00:11:09

Watching Gardeners World, what a load of complete rubbish!
What do others think please or am I just ratty?? 🥴

Gr8dame Mon 17-Mar-25 18:47:55

I love Monty Don he is kind and a real gentleman. I can’t garden due to age and disability but watching Monty and his affinity with his pets brings me great joy. I’d love to meet him.

pascal30 Mon 17-Mar-25 18:43:27

Nobody can replace Geoff Hamilton for me .. now I much prefer Gardeners Question Time on Radio 4

Barleyfields Mon 17-Mar-25 18:33:28

I have a rambling rose which is kept to the size I want by annual pruning. I expect that’s what Monty will do with his. He has ramblers at Longmeadow which are allowed to spread and ramble. He’s not a fool!

merlotgran Mon 17-Mar-25 18:27:02

Paperbackwriter

I keep thinking Monty isn't that good a gardener. He's always enthusiastic about some big new planting scheme but then a year later decides it was all rubbish and he starts again. This time it's a total remake of his jewel garden. Talk about wasteful.
And this time he planted a rambling rose to climb up a support. In no time at all it'll be WAY too big (clue in the name) and he'll probably take it out. Plus when he was planting it he didn't add microrhizome stuff which David Austin roses always say should be done with bare root roses. I wish Sarah Raven would do a TV series. Her courses and her gardens are glorious.

Gardens evolve. We have to adapt and the Jewel Garden was designed and planted years ago. The plants will no doubt be used elsewhere at Longmeadow.

Monty explained why he wasn’t adding any ‘stuff’ to the rose’s planting hole and if your soil is in good heart you need to encourage the roots to source their own nutrients. As for the size, have you heard of pruning?

New planting schemes are part of the production or would you prefer Monty to stand in front of the camera and say,
‘I’ve been doing this job for donkeys years and I really CBA to show you lot how to divide perennials again so I suggest you pop off to YouTube and find out how to do it yourselves.
See you next week!’

Nell82 Mon 17-Mar-25 17:22:38

I was delighted when Monty explained how to transplant a clematis as I've been worrying about that imminent task. He also reminded me to get out there and mulch.

I like Beechgrove for its down-to-earth approach - they do love their tatties!

I subscribe (free) to three YouTube channels which are rewarding in different ways. All lady gardeners:

The Middle-Sized Garden

CottoVerdi

Rosy Hardy Gardening

Allira Mon 17-Mar-25 17:16:12

I like listening to Monty, his voice is calm and relaxing for Friday night viewing, and quite reassuring.

I do too. The world might be in turmoil but there's Monty, reassuring us that the seasons still turn, spring brings new growth.

I do like Adam and Frances too.

Ziplok Mon 17-Mar-25 17:06:28

I don’t think that GW is “a load of complete rubbish “.
It’s a completely different style of programme to Beechgrove (which I also like). I think Beechgrove is helpful to novice gardeners, experienced gardeners and anyone in between, offering good advice on the basics. Obviously, you need to adapt the timings to suit where you live in the UK.

I like the format of GW on the whole, and enjoy seeing what people have done with their own plots (large and small). It doesn’t cover the basics in the way Beechgrove does, but is interesting in its own right.

I think Adam and Frances have a lot to offer the programme and whenever they take over from Monty, I find their style interesting and helpful, too, and think in time that they will be on more than now, as I believe Monty will hand over the reins more and more as he pursues other things.

I like listening to Monty, his voice is calm and relaxing for Friday night viewing, and quite reassuring.

valdavi Mon 17-Mar-25 16:45:56

Beechgrove is a stunning garden. Longmeadow's interesting though & Monty gives lots of design tips as well as the "how to". I'm inclined to think it's better as it is because if I want to know how to do something, I look it up on google / youtube, RHS is very instructive.
I'm not saying no-one used to bother about "design" when I was a child, but in domestic gardens it was much less varied, we had veg plots, lawn, rose bed or pergola, concrete paths, flower borders with lots of (similar) annuals & maybe a greenhouse or pond. Now there's a huge variety even in the average street, & it's great to get ideas of what's really worked, or just enjoy others' stunning gardens.I don't really like garden makeover programmes, but apart from that I love my armchair gardening.

Ilovedogs22 Mon 17-Mar-25 16:44:00

Interesting to see how many other GNetter's are a bit fed up with Gardeners World.
I don't mind Monty but some times he's a little precious.
I find Adam irritating & drony!
Francis is so irritating (I cannot stand anything about her!)
I adore Toby Buckland.
I also highly rate Arit. (Very good communicator)
The programme need a to go back to basics & stop going up its own botty. Ps I love Bechgrove too, apart the silly woman who does flower arranging (too cocky & not all that!) 🤔

Fruach Mon 17-Mar-25 16:37:24

Churchview - agree wth your view - i prefer being shown inspirational gardens rather than the more mundane tasks of 'how to'

Susieq62 Mon 17-Mar-25 16:25:03

Give me Beechgrove any time. It is much more in tune with our gardening situation and our weather in Yorkshire plus it is down to earth !

Barleyfields Mon 17-Mar-25 16:22:59

I doubt Sarah Raven does much hands-on gardening. Her plants are grown by a nursery and are of variable quality.

Paperbackwriter Mon 17-Mar-25 16:17:45

I keep thinking Monty isn't that good a gardener. He's always enthusiastic about some big new planting scheme but then a year later decides it was all rubbish and he starts again. This time it's a total remake of his jewel garden. Talk about wasteful.
And this time he planted a rambling rose to climb up a support. In no time at all it'll be WAY too big (clue in the name) and he'll probably take it out. Plus when he was planting it he didn't add microrhizome stuff which David Austin roses always say should be done with bare root roses. I wish Sarah Raven would do a TV series. Her courses and her gardens are glorious.

Dcba Mon 17-Mar-25 15:04:39

I agree with everyone ….Im an expat living in Toronto and although the seasons don’t really coincide I really enjoyed watching the recorded edition of Gardeners World to glean tips on upcoming gardening tasks….but I’ve stopped watching it because it’s definitely lost its appeal for many of the reasons stated by Gransnet followers above. Wish we could get Beechgrove on Britbox…..from the comments it’s seems to be of more interest now than Gardeners World because it contains. Sensible and relatable gardening advice.

stonehaven48 Mon 17-Mar-25 14:46:41

Altho I watch GW most weeks, I find there is very little in it that relates to my small garden. I would appreciate more practical tips for the "ordinary" garden. A weekly visit to an "ordinary" garden, pointing out whats in the wrong position, what needs pruning and when, and generally give advice on how to improve it and look after the plants would be very interesting.

Kayteetay1 Mon 17-Mar-25 14:31:02

I love it. It’s my nice little escape from it all time. Love seeing the gardens and listening to the presenters gentle and polite commentary.

wibblywobblywobblebottom Mon 17-Mar-25 14:28:02

Now???

cc Mon 17-Mar-25 14:27:07

I do enjoy Gardeners World but it's bound to become a bit repetitive as the same tasks recur every year, there's only so many sessions on rose pruning, perennial splitting or bulb planting that most of us need to watch. Also I no longer have a "real" garden, just a balcony, so much of the advice is not so useful to me. I like to see new plants though.
I still love Monty, Adam, Carole and Frances - in fact most of the people who present, though I never took to Toby. It's so easy to stream the programme and simply skip through the bits I don't want to watch.

b1zzle Mon 17-Mar-25 14:22:00

It's because the presenter only does what I call 'grandpa gardening' now and if you look at excerpts from his stand-up about Filming Gardeners World, he openly admits he doesn't give a what we do at the weekends (his words) & he hates that part of the programme and is equally vocal about pruning our roses. I'll only watch it again when Adam takes over ...

spabbygirl Mon 17-Mar-25 14:12:59

Kandinsky

I love it, and think Monty is great.
I really like seeing other people’s gardens and how they go about creating something wonderful ( in often not ideal circumstances ) this week. we saw a council flat balcony transformed, and a terraced house with a completely concrete back yard brought to life with pots - it was amazing!
Best part of the show for me.
As someone up thread said, you can google anything these days so don’t really need someone on the telly teaching you.

I love it too, and think Monty is just the right presenter, he shows us how we can garden even if we've got disabilities I would never see those gardens that are run for people with health issues and they are very special.

He shows us how to manage our plots without chemicals, and used recycle or use foraged materials. I love how he features people who glean stuff from car boots etc. their gardens are always quirky and fun.

He's always been better than Titchmarsh, who is just bog standard average and not as forward thinking as to look for organic things or recycled.

Monty is great, I'll be sorry when he goes, Frances would be a good alternative

Pattie47 Mon 17-Mar-25 14:12:11

I agree with others. Fed up with Monty Don & his (in my view) unattractive garden (HUGE hedges) We need more gardening advise for us with reasonable sized gardens! Beechgrove is much better.

Colls Mon 17-Mar-25 13:53:33

foxie48

I used to but with the wetter summers we've had recently it hasn't disappeared just got more invasive but I fear I'm losing the battle. We're on heavy clay so the soil is difficult to say the least.

Foxie48, you know, with some, moss is very trendy t the moment. People buy it!
I wondered if an advert in an internet page localish to you might even get someone who would come, get it up and take it away?
Just a thought.

Mia9Poppy3 Mon 17-Mar-25 13:51:29

Nobody beats Geoff Hamilton, wonderful

Mojack26 Mon 17-Mar-25 13:37:09

Love Beechgrive much more practical

vegansrock Mon 17-Mar-25 05:17:13

I’m team Monty . I don’t want tips on planting carrots- I prefer seeing other gardens in different locations and getting inspiration.