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spottybook Wed 19-Mar-25 08:14:06

Whatever your thoughts on Tommy Robinson this article by Lizzie Webb in the Conservative Woman makes interesting reading.

www.conservativewoman.co.uk/for-the-rape-victims-sake-have-mercy-on-tommy-robinson/

Jaxjacky Thu 20-Mar-25 21:30:49

TR is now challenged his jail conditions (segregation for protection) in the high court as against his human rights damaging his mental health. This means a separate prosecution, for refusing to comply with counter terrorism, has been deferred.
He is an arch manipulator and dangerous.

Realky Thu 20-Mar-25 21:01:45

Research on him yielded this.
hopenothate.org.uk/2022/01/11/tommy-robinson-is-a-hypocrite-when-it-comes-to-opposing-child-sexual-exploitation/

Churchview Thu 20-Mar-25 20:41:05

Not really Kandinsky.
I just find it interesting and useful to read widely about people in the public eye.
That way I don't make the mistake of singing the praises of convicted violent criminals on opinion sites.

Kandinsky Thu 20-Mar-25 20:34:17

Churchview
Have you ever thought of going on Mastermind?
Specialist subject - Tommy Robinson.

spottybook Thu 20-Mar-25 20:31:10

Not really Churchview. I clutch my pearls over posts on threads I don't agree with. We all have different opinions

Churchview Thu 20-Mar-25 20:17:13

That makes your previous post very strange then spottybook.

Babs03 Thu 20-Mar-25 20:10:09

I call Yaxley Lennon by his real name because it is his real name, and Tommy Robinson was a horrible football hooligan whom Lennon obvs idolises but whom I prefer not to name if I can help it.

spottybook Thu 20-Mar-25 20:09:54

Not at all Churchview. I do in fact wear a string of pearls and find I clutch them from time to time.

Churchview Thu 20-Mar-25 20:01:55

Spottybook Referring to posters who disagree with you as "pearl clutching gransnetters" doesn't exactly encourage diversity of thought or demonstrate respect for the views of others.

Churchview Thu 20-Mar-25 19:54:50

Kandinsky

Why do some people insist on calling Tommy Robison by his birth name? Everyone knows Tommy Robinson Isn’t his real name, but it’s the name he is known by.
What point are people trying to make calling him Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon? It’s hardly ‘breaking news’

He took a false name to hide his criminal past.

He also uses/used other false names - Andrew McMaster, Paul Harris and Wayne King.

What kind of man has four false names?

He chose the name Tommy Robinson after a former leader of the Luton Town MIGs - a football hooligan firm. The original Tommy Robinson was the sort of man who, when he wrote a book, asked Charles Bronson to write the forward.

These are all the points I am trying to make when I refer to him by his real name.

Allira Thu 20-Mar-25 19:46:17

Lahlah65

Is there an evidence that this is the same Lizzie Webb? Not sure she ever described herself as an education consultant. She did go into challenging education environments to deliver exercise classes. But let’s be really sure before we jump to conclusions about people’s identity.

My post yesterday morning:

Lizzie Webb was the author
Lizzie Webb has worked in the education sector for thirty years.

I didn't make that up, it was in the blurb about her on the ConservativeWoman website.

I then asked:
Who is she?

StoneofDestiny Thu 20-Mar-25 19:40:31

I do respect the views of others but will call out views that support Trump, Musk, or Yaxley Lennon, all of whom I consider to be deeply disturbing individuals capable of doing great harm to others

Totally agree. A vile group of individuals who choose a bandwagon to promote their clear fascist ideology. They collectively disrespect the law, are racists and misogynists and use tactics to summon rioters to the streets to threaten the peace.

Kandinsky Thu 20-Mar-25 19:33:35

Why do some people insist on calling Tommy Robison by his birth name? Everyone knows Tommy Robinson Isn’t his real name, but it’s the name he is known by.
What point are people trying to make calling him Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon? It’s hardly ‘breaking news’

Babs03 Thu 20-Mar-25 19:12:31

@spottybook, I don't possess pearls and if I did am pretty certain I wouldn't clutch them.
I do respect the views of others but will call out views that support Trump, Musk, or Yaxley Lennon, all of whom I consider to be deeply disturbing individuals capable of doing great harm to others.

spottybook Thu 20-Mar-25 19:05:58

Lahlah65 You might at least have the decency to get my name right before posting. Incidentally, for what it is worth, I enjoy The Conservative Woman and find it very insightful. Obviously it doesn't fit well with the pearl clutching gransnetters but there are some of us who do lean very much to the right and the diversity is what makes gransnet interesting in that we don't all share the same views but need to respect the views of others.

Lahlah65 Thu 20-Mar-25 18:05:08

On the other hand here is someone who writes a lot on TWC and other sites - Dr Niall McCrae.
Here is another publication he writes for
hopenothate.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/HnH_Turn-Off-The-Light_2023-09.pdf
He might want to note the company he keeps. I don’t have the energy or the inclination to carry on searching for the other writers on TCW.
Spottydog - I have the advantage of years of experience in research, and I know it’s really easy for me to find information that other people find it difficult to disentangle. None of this is meant personally and I’m sorry if it feels a bit harsh.

Lahlah65 Thu 20-Mar-25 18:01:52

Is there an evidence that this is the same Lizzie Webb? Not sure she ever described herself as an education consultant. She did go into challenging education environments to deliver exercise classes. But let’s be really sure before we jump to conclusions about people’s identity.

Lahlah65 Thu 20-Mar-25 17:50:18

First thing to do surely is always to check the source, before giving an article any credence and reposting.
Lots of ‘soap boxing’ on TCW site, by people who have no credibility in the field they comment on. For some the only publications, they lay claim to are novels.
As always, there are nuggets of truth in some of the articles (not the one about Tommy Robinson of course) but with no proper sources, references, etc. they are nothing better than opinion - and not even well informed opinion.

Churchview Thu 20-Mar-25 17:03:05

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Robinson

Churchview Thu 20-Mar-25 17:02:20

Kandinsky

He is all of the things I've listed. That information is freely available from multiple sources.

No, it doesn’t mean he’s wrong about the grooming gang scandal, but it does cast doubt on his motivation to condemn violent, dangerous criminals when he is in fact one himself.

People don't have more hate for 'Robinson' than they do the grooming gangs. Most people feel repelled by all dangerous criminals and want to see them bought to justice, and that includes Robinson.

I'm sure you can see why many people have zero time for people who support 'Robinson' given pretty much every single aspect of his history and criminal record.

Wyllow3 Thu 20-Mar-25 14:44:41

I have no time for any men or women who rape and abuse children or cover-ups.

I have no time for politicians who try to gain popularity off the backs of victims.

ViceVersa Thu 20-Mar-25 14:41:43

Churchview

Stephen Yaxley-Lennon is a violent, tax evading football hooligan, bail-breaching, head butting, common assault inflicting, racist, conspiracy theory promoting, Putin supporting, Russian money seeking, passport faking, Covid rule breaking, convicted fraudster, journalist stalking supporter of people who post Gas The Jews videos.

Farage called him a thug.

Do you really want more people like him Kandinsky?

Exactly. He is every one of those things and more. We need less of his like, not more!

Oreo Thu 20-Mar-25 14:39:49

Wyllow3

The article in the O/P says,

"It is ironic that it is Robinson who, more than anyone else, has consistently investigated and championed these ignored girls".

This is rubbish. The brave men and women who actually fought on the ground to make sure the issues were brought to light and continued to do so consistently who made the difference, who made it happen. One such was honoured on a thread on GB news in GN (collecting money). Looked at the racism issue full on as did many. I've just googled a whole number of reports on those who were involved and

Tommy Robinson doesnt get a mention. Words not actions are easy.

He's jumped into the issue for political reasons backed by Musk (who has more political reasons).

I agree with you.

Oreo Thu 20-Mar-25 14:38:51

JaneJudge

We should all eat chocolate ❤️
I think we’d all be happier and much more peaceful

And fatter 😲

Kandinsky Thu 20-Mar-25 14:30:08

Churchview

I’m sure he is some of the things you say, I know about some but not about everything you’ve said.
But, even if he is everything you say, it doesn’t mean he’s wrong about the grooming gang scandal does it.
It sometimes seems people have more hate for Tommy Robinson than they do for Muslim men who rape children.
I have zero time for these people.