Whatever your thoughts on Tommy Robinson this article by Lizzie Webb in the Conservative Woman makes interesting reading.
www.conservativewoman.co.uk/for-the-rape-victims-sake-have-mercy-on-tommy-robinson/
I'm not a pheasant plucker....
Whatever your thoughts on Tommy Robinson this article by Lizzie Webb in the Conservative Woman makes interesting reading.
www.conservativewoman.co.uk/for-the-rape-victims-sake-have-mercy-on-tommy-robinson/
An interesting thread title.
I wondered if he’d transitioned 🤔🤔🤔
I’ve read it quickly. Like many others, I was aware of the organised sexual exploitation of vulnerable children, many living in residential care homes. The abusers were mainly men of Muslim Pakistani heritage, taxi drivers, takeaway delivery night workers.
To suggest that Tommy Robinson is somehow to be seen as a brave spokesperson for those chikdren who were ignored by agencies is simply untrue.
He’s a racist exploiter.
Many health, police, probation, social workers, teachers were desperate to draw attention to this abuse, we’ d had numerous investigations into why and how the children were failed. None of these conclude that only Tommy Robinson could have changed things
RosieandherMaw
An interesting thread title.
I wondered if he’d transitioned 🤔🤔🤔
👍🏻
I’ve skimmed this and to herald Robinson as some form of modern day hero is a joke!
He leapt on this as a way of showcasing “wicked evil black men” attacking white British girls.
It doesn’t matter what colour, creed, religion or nationality the perpetrators or the victims are/were.
This is an abhorrent crime committed by men on under age vulnerable girls and all involved should be punished and the victims offered counselling.
I find it insulting to the victims that Robinson is using these awful events to further his own racist rhetoric.
Regardless of the fact that Tommy Robinson is, amongst many other things, a tax evading, violent football hooligan, I thought it was a bit rich of her to blame the media for ignoring the grooming gangs when the Conservative party did a good job of ignoring this appalling issue for a good 10 years.
This is a ridiculous argument!
Tommy Robinson / Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon is filled with hate. He is a well known anti-Islam campaigner.
The story about the young girls in Rotherham is shocking and very very sad but maybe it's more informative to read up on him (and therefore his angle on this) first! The recent call for a national inquiry into these and other rape and sexual abuse gangs threw up many questions in parliament.
If you are interested in the idea of another inquiry:
www.theguardian.com/society/2025/jan/08/does-the-uk-need-another-national-inquiry-into-and-sexual-abuse-gangs
Has Tommy Robinson advanced the cause of victims?
The claims: This has largely come from Musk and the coterie of hard- and far-right X users he has recently discovered. According to their narrative, Robinson, the adopted name of Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, is a journalist and campaigner who has brought the abuse scandal to prominence, and has in response been unjustly jailed by the state and is a political prisoner.
The reality: This is a much easier one to adjudicate, as pretty much everything Musk has said or spread about Robinson is complete nonsense. A longtime far-right agitator, he made his name leading the English Defence League, and anti-Islam street group that organised violent street protests in Luton, Robinson’s home town. He has criminal convictions for assault, mortgage fraud and trying to illegally enter the US. He is now in jail for contempt of court for repeating false allegations against a Syrian refugee.
Don't forget, the Alexis Jay inquiry (which the conservative government failed to implement - they say they intened to implement some) found that there was not enough data from the police case studies to know whether any particular ethnic group was overrepresented - although that was definitely being reported but at the same time, a background literature review suggested that most perpetrators of child sexual exploitation were young white men (though not necessarily in gangs).
This piece is a bit old (Oct 2018) so hasnt caught up completely but it is excellent for understanding the reasons behind the rise of the "far right" - and it explains the rise of Tommy Robinson during this period.
www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/25/tommy-robinson-and-the-far-rights-new-playbook
It's a much more informative read!
^To suggest that Tommy Robinson is somehow to be seen as a brave spokesperson for those chikdren who were ignored by agencies is simply untrue.
He’s a racist exploiter.
Many health, police, probation, social workers, teachers were desperate to draw attention to this abuse, we’ d had numerous investigations into why and how the children were failed. None of these conclude that only Tommy Robinson could have changed things^
Exactly Iam
It is well documented that the young girls were failed by many people/agencies/systems.
^ I was aware of the organised sexual exploitation of vulnerable children, many living in residential care homes. The abusers were mainly men of Muslim Pakistani heritage, taxi drivers, takeaway delivery night workers.^
This is not accurate, there were extensive abuse networks in Care homes for decades, long before Asian immigrants were involved. Do you not remember that disgusting MP, Cyril Smith, who consistently abused boys in a care home through a pre existing paedophile network. He was just the tip of a (very large ) iceberg.
I can remember criminal case after criminal case between 1980-2000 of sexual and physical abuse in care homes and established networks of abusers.
That some networks of sexual abusers are of Muslim heritage cannot be denied, but to talk as if they are the only or main abusers is to be deliberately blind to the other networks that existed extensively in the recent past, in schools, care homes, youth groups and everywhere young people came together - and probably still do..
Now, when many children are living in homes where the resident adult male is not their biological father, I think the level of unnoticed and unreported sexual abuse has yet to be fully realised.
Tommy Robinson has done nothing to help abused childrens, all he has done is over-emphasised those incidences where men from Muslim backgrounds were involve and thrown out with the bathwater all the many others abused by nice white Anglo-Saxon protestants
So this is how Musk is trying to control and intervene and foment trouble in the UK now? Having given up on Reform he's trying to find footholds in the very far right. Or in the Conservative Party?
Foolish Conservative Woman to not see whats going on.
The Alexis Jay enquiry in 2018, paid for by tax payers, was detailed and through but proved to be largely pointless as the, then Conservative, government chose not to implement almost all the findings and recommendations.
There is no point in calling for and financing an enquiry if the results are then largely ignored. Another enquiry would have to draw on the initial enquiry and ask some awkward questions as to why the findings were virtually ignored.
All Tommy Robinson sets out to do is to use this as a platform for his racist agenda.
If I remember rightly, Jimmy Savile(devout, practising Catholic), Ralph Harris, Jonathon King and Garry Glitter were all caucasian and none of them was a Muslim.
Its also really, really offensive to the people who did shout, point it out, work really hard, some for years, conduct inquiries, bring those to justice
for Musk to now push the idea "its Tommy Robinson". Its political gaming by Musk and TR supporter
Shame on that "Conservative Woman"
Wyllow3
*Its also really, really offensive to the people who did shout, point it out, work really hard, some for years, conduct inquiries, bring those to justice*
for Musk to now push the idea "its Tommy Robinson". Its political gaming by Musk and TR supporter
Shame on that "Conservative Woman"
Lizzie Webb was the author
Lizzie Webb has worked in the education sector for thirty years.
Who is she?
Indigo8
The Alexis Jay enquiry in 2018, paid for by tax payers, was detailed and through but proved to be largely pointless as the, then Conservative, government chose not to implement almost all the findings and recommendations.
There is no point in calling for and financing an enquiry if the results are then largely ignored. Another enquiry would have to draw on the initial enquiry and ask some awkward questions as to why the findings were virtually ignored.
All Tommy Robinson sets out to do is to use this as a platform for his racist agenda.
If I remember rightly, Jimmy Savile(devout, practising Catholic), Ralph Harris, Jonathon King and Garry Glitter were all caucasian and none of them was a Muslim.
👏👏👏👏
Allira
Wyllow3
Its also really, really offensive to the people who did shout, point it out, work really hard, some for years, conduct inquiries, bring those to justice
for Musk to now push the idea "its Tommy Robinson". Its political gaming by Musk and TR supporter
Shame on that "Conservative Woman"Lizzie Webb was the author
Lizzie Webb has worked in the education sector for thirty years.
Who is she?
The only Lizzie Webb I could find who is an author is one who taught fitness on TV and was nicknamed Mad Lizzie.
educator? 🤔
The Conservative Woman was also calling Trump and Musk Gods in another article that there is a link to on a thread on GN somewhere.
Musk also highlighted the Asian grooming gangs. What both he and Yaxley Lennon conveniently overlook is that whilst Asian gangs work the streets, white pedophiles far excel their efforts online. This isn’t about colour or religion is about certain ‘men’, some are Pakistani taxi drivers, others are white men of the cloth supported by the establishment, scout leaders or football coaches. Famous personages like Jimmy Savile, Fred Talbot, Rolf Harris.
Musk and Robinson are Islamophobic so of course they are cherry picking. But strangely or perhaps not, Musk supported the Tate brothers on X who are known to have sex trafficked minors.
Yaxley Lennon has no redeeming features. But he always has an agenda. And is patently obvious what that is in this particular instance.
Allira is she the 80s fitness guru who did lots of work with disadvantaged young people?
There was a Lizzie Webb involved with things like PRUs and youth offending,....
Yes, the same one?
I don't know, it was all a bit vague.
NotSpaghetti
Allira is she the 80s fitness guru who did lots of work with disadvantaged young people?
There was a Lizzie Webb involved with things like PRUs and youth offending,....
That’s the one. Known as ^Mad Lizzi*
Babs03
The Conservative Woman was also calling Trump and Musk Gods in another article that there is a link to on a thread on GN somewhere.
Musk also highlighted the Asian grooming gangs. What both he and Yaxley Lennon conveniently overlook is that whilst Asian gangs work the streets, white pedophiles far excel their efforts online. This isn’t about colour or religion is about certain ‘men’, some are Pakistani taxi drivers, others are white men of the cloth supported by the establishment, scout leaders or football coaches. Famous personages like Jimmy Savile, Fred Talbot, Rolf Harris.
Musk and Robinson are Islamophobic so of course they are cherry picking. But strangely or perhaps not, Musk supported the Tate brothers on X who are known to have sex trafficked minors.
Yaxley Lennon has no redeeming features. But he always has an agenda. And is patently obvious what that is in this particular instance.
I can give you a link
www.conservativewoman.co.uk/in-elon-musk-britain-has-cause-for-hope/
January 2025
"In Elon Musk, Britain has cause for hope"
"Today, however, there may be cause for hope. The political status quo in Britain may be about to change for the good, and the man responsible for that is the genius tech billionaire and restorer of a free speech platform, Elon Musk"
"Amongst Monday’s tweets from Elon Musk was a poll: ‘America should liberate the people of Britain from their tyrannical government’. Of 49million voters, 58 per cent said yes"
(and a lot more very far right pro Trump worship/waffle - Britain descending into tyranny right now, etc etc)
More articles include "JD Vance doubles down: Globalist Europe ‘on brink of suicide’"
More extreme pro USA articles that make me ask,
surely this isnt an official Conservative Party journal? Does someone know? There are no articles advertised that I can see from current conservative women/men leaders
as far as I can tell, we are discussing a far right journal, not "Conservatives" at all.
Fill your boots!
Not a publication for me!
www.conservativewoman.co.uk/conwoms-culture-war/
Blimey. Well that article is pretty clear isn't it where this journal is coming from, Reform have got it right all others are dangerous globalist liberals, women have gone too far with the "me too" movement against men..... and more.....
Clearly not The Conservative Party!
Wyllow3
Clearly not The Conservative Party!
Haha
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