Well we could all provide context about the BBC or the guardian. Both terrible on child safeguarding
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Whatever your thoughts on Tommy Robinson this article by Lizzie Webb in the Conservative Woman makes interesting reading.
www.conservativewoman.co.uk/for-the-rape-victims-sake-have-mercy-on-tommy-robinson/
Well we could all provide context about the BBC or the guardian. Both terrible on child safeguarding
Just to put it in context, which is important in my view.
Well on here it always drifts on to the threat of the far right.
Not that the words far right have any meaning anymore.
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Where do you encounter attempts to shut down conversations about this Galaxy? That's not been my experience...people are horrified and willing to discuss.
There seems to have been a huge amount of media coverage of this and I often hear it mentioned on Radio 4, often on programmes specifically to cover the issue.
I am not surprised that various people such as Tommy Robinson have a platform on this issue. Any attempt to discuss it is shut down. I talk about the problems within the Catholic Church with regard to safeguarding, when I do that no one goes 'but what about the Methodists that commit abuse'. It is fine to talk about abuse by catholic priests, it is fine to talk about abuse by Asian grooming gangs, it is fine to talk about the specific risk from step parents. They all are specific problems with regard to safeguarding. I couldn't care less who gets upset about those conversations.
All Stephen is doing is profiteering from all this. He doesn't care about anything to do with it all.
we need to listen and be influenced by reliable and credible sources
M0nica
^ I was aware of the organised sexual exploitation of vulnerable children, many living in residential care homes. The abusers were mainly men of Muslim Pakistani heritage, taxi drivers, takeaway delivery night workers.^
This is not accurate, there were extensive abuse networks in Care homes for decades, long before Asian immigrants were involved. Do you not remember that disgusting MP, Cyril Smith, who consistently abused boys in a care home through a pre existing paedophile network. He was just the tip of a (very large ) iceberg.
I can remember criminal case after criminal case between 1980-2000 of sexual and physical abuse in care homes and established networks of abusers.
That some networks of sexual abusers are of Muslim heritage cannot be denied, but to talk as if they are the only or main abusers is to be deliberately blind to the other networks that existed extensively in the recent past, in schools, care homes, youth groups and everywhere young people came together - and probably still do..
Now, when many children are living in homes where the resident adult male is not their biological father, I think the level of unnoticed and unreported sexual abuse has yet to be fully realised.
Tommy Robinson has done nothing to help abused childrens, all he has done is over-emphasised those incidences where men from Muslim backgrounds were involve and thrown out with the bathwater all the many others abused by nice white Anglo-Saxon protestants
MOnica, I was responding to the article referenced by the OP which specifically referenced the so called Asian Grooming Gangs. I’m well aware of the vulnerability of children looked after/in residential settings to organised sexual exploitation. It isn’t only the groups under discussion who realised vulnerable children were easy targets.
I knew social workers and police involved in the Cyril Smith abuse of boys at Knowle View etc in Rochdale. I could write the book about Police attempts to prosecute him and the way MI5 stopped it.
I’d go further than your suggestion that the level of unnoticed and unreported sexual abuse when the resident male is not their biological father`* is yet to be fully realised.
I say the extent of sexual abuse of babies, infants and children is such that it leads people to deny
Wyllow3
Blimey. Well that article is pretty clear isn't it where this journal is coming from, Reform have got it right all others are dangerous globalist liberals, women have gone too far with the "me too" movement against men..... and more.....
Thanks Cossy chilling but very interesting. Blimey indeed Wyllow3.
Cossy
I’ve skimmed this and to herald Robinson as some form of modern day hero is a joke!
He leapt on this as a way of showcasing “wicked evil black men” attacking white British girls.
It doesn’t matter what colour, creed, religion or nationality the perpetrators or the victims are/were.
This is an abhorrent crime committed by men on under age vulnerable girls and all involved should be punished and the victims offered counselling.
I find it insulting to the victims that Robinson is using these awful events to further his own racist rhetoric.
It kind of did matter as fear of being labelled racist stopped various people and institutions from doing more.
Thankfully it won’t nowadays.
Wyllow3
Clearly not The Conservative Party!
Haha
Clearly not The Conservative Party!
Blimey. Well that article is pretty clear isn't it where this journal is coming from, Reform have got it right all others are dangerous globalist liberals, women have gone too far with the "me too" movement against men..... and more.....
Fill your boots!
Not a publication for me!
www.conservativewoman.co.uk/conwoms-culture-war/
Babs03
The Conservative Woman was also calling Trump and Musk Gods in another article that there is a link to on a thread on GN somewhere.
Musk also highlighted the Asian grooming gangs. What both he and Yaxley Lennon conveniently overlook is that whilst Asian gangs work the streets, white pedophiles far excel their efforts online. This isn’t about colour or religion is about certain ‘men’, some are Pakistani taxi drivers, others are white men of the cloth supported by the establishment, scout leaders or football coaches. Famous personages like Jimmy Savile, Fred Talbot, Rolf Harris.
Musk and Robinson are Islamophobic so of course they are cherry picking. But strangely or perhaps not, Musk supported the Tate brothers on X who are known to have sex trafficked minors.
Yaxley Lennon has no redeeming features. But he always has an agenda. And is patently obvious what that is in this particular instance.
I can give you a link
www.conservativewoman.co.uk/in-elon-musk-britain-has-cause-for-hope/
January 2025
"In Elon Musk, Britain has cause for hope"
"Today, however, there may be cause for hope. The political status quo in Britain may be about to change for the good, and the man responsible for that is the genius tech billionaire and restorer of a free speech platform, Elon Musk"
"Amongst Monday’s tweets from Elon Musk was a poll: ‘America should liberate the people of Britain from their tyrannical government’. Of 49million voters, 58 per cent said yes"
(and a lot more very far right pro Trump worship/waffle - Britain descending into tyranny right now, etc etc)
More articles include "JD Vance doubles down: Globalist Europe ‘on brink of suicide’"
More extreme pro USA articles that make me ask,
surely this isnt an official Conservative Party journal? Does someone know? There are no articles advertised that I can see from current conservative women/men leaders
as far as I can tell, we are discussing a far right journal, not "Conservatives" at all.
NotSpaghetti
Allira is she the 80s fitness guru who did lots of work with disadvantaged young people?
There was a Lizzie Webb involved with things like PRUs and youth offending,....
That’s the one. Known as ^Mad Lizzi*
I don't know, it was all a bit vague.
Yes, the same one?
Allira is she the 80s fitness guru who did lots of work with disadvantaged young people?
There was a Lizzie Webb involved with things like PRUs and youth offending,....
The Conservative Woman was also calling Trump and Musk Gods in another article that there is a link to on a thread on GN somewhere.
Musk also highlighted the Asian grooming gangs. What both he and Yaxley Lennon conveniently overlook is that whilst Asian gangs work the streets, white pedophiles far excel their efforts online. This isn’t about colour or religion is about certain ‘men’, some are Pakistani taxi drivers, others are white men of the cloth supported by the establishment, scout leaders or football coaches. Famous personages like Jimmy Savile, Fred Talbot, Rolf Harris.
Musk and Robinson are Islamophobic so of course they are cherry picking. But strangely or perhaps not, Musk supported the Tate brothers on X who are known to have sex trafficked minors.
Yaxley Lennon has no redeeming features. But he always has an agenda. And is patently obvious what that is in this particular instance.
Allira
Wyllow3
Its also really, really offensive to the people who did shout, point it out, work really hard, some for years, conduct inquiries, bring those to justice
for Musk to now push the idea "its Tommy Robinson". Its political gaming by Musk and TR supporter
Shame on that "Conservative Woman"Lizzie Webb was the author
Lizzie Webb has worked in the education sector for thirty years.
Who is she?
The only Lizzie Webb I could find who is an author is one who taught fitness on TV and was nicknamed Mad Lizzie.
educator? 🤔
Indigo8
The Alexis Jay enquiry in 2018, paid for by tax payers, was detailed and through but proved to be largely pointless as the, then Conservative, government chose not to implement almost all the findings and recommendations.
There is no point in calling for and financing an enquiry if the results are then largely ignored. Another enquiry would have to draw on the initial enquiry and ask some awkward questions as to why the findings were virtually ignored.
All Tommy Robinson sets out to do is to use this as a platform for his racist agenda.
If I remember rightly, Jimmy Savile(devout, practising Catholic), Ralph Harris, Jonathon King and Garry Glitter were all caucasian and none of them was a Muslim.
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Wyllow3
*Its also really, really offensive to the people who did shout, point it out, work really hard, some for years, conduct inquiries, bring those to justice*
for Musk to now push the idea "its Tommy Robinson". Its political gaming by Musk and TR supporter
Shame on that "Conservative Woman"
Lizzie Webb was the author
Lizzie Webb has worked in the education sector for thirty years.
Who is she?
Its also really, really offensive to the people who did shout, point it out, work really hard, some for years, conduct inquiries, bring those to justice
for Musk to now push the idea "its Tommy Robinson". Its political gaming by Musk and TR supporter
Shame on that "Conservative Woman"
The Alexis Jay enquiry in 2018, paid for by tax payers, was detailed and through but proved to be largely pointless as the, then Conservative, government chose not to implement almost all the findings and recommendations.
There is no point in calling for and financing an enquiry if the results are then largely ignored. Another enquiry would have to draw on the initial enquiry and ask some awkward questions as to why the findings were virtually ignored.
All Tommy Robinson sets out to do is to use this as a platform for his racist agenda.
If I remember rightly, Jimmy Savile(devout, practising Catholic), Ralph Harris, Jonathon King and Garry Glitter were all caucasian and none of them was a Muslim.
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