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Wyllow3 Wed 19-Mar-25 09:38:43

So this is how Musk is trying to control and intervene and foment trouble in the UK now? Having given up on Reform he's trying to find footholds in the very far right. Or in the Conservative Party?
Foolish Conservative Woman to not see whats going on.

M0nica Wed 19-Mar-25 09:26:56

^ I was aware of the organised sexual exploitation of vulnerable children, many living in residential care homes. The abusers were mainly men of Muslim Pakistani heritage, taxi drivers, takeaway delivery night workers.^

This is not accurate, there were extensive abuse networks in Care homes for decades, long before Asian immigrants were involved. Do you not remember that disgusting MP, Cyril Smith, who consistently abused boys in a care home through a pre existing paedophile network. He was just the tip of a (very large ) iceberg.

I can remember criminal case after criminal case between 1980-2000 of sexual and physical abuse in care homes and established networks of abusers.

That some networks of sexual abusers are of Muslim heritage cannot be denied, but to talk as if they are the only or main abusers is to be deliberately blind to the other networks that existed extensively in the recent past, in schools, care homes, youth groups and everywhere young people came together - and probably still do..

Now, when many children are living in homes where the resident adult male is not their biological father, I think the level of unnoticed and unreported sexual abuse has yet to be fully realised.

Tommy Robinson has done nothing to help abused childrens, all he has done is over-emphasised those incidences where men from Muslim backgrounds were involve and thrown out with the bathwater all the many others abused by nice white Anglo-Saxon protestants

NotSpaghetti Wed 19-Mar-25 09:09:07

^To suggest that Tommy Robinson is somehow to be seen as a brave spokesperson for those chikdren who were ignored by agencies is simply untrue.
He’s a racist exploiter.
Many health, police, probation, social workers, teachers were desperate to draw attention to this abuse, we’ d had numerous investigations into why and how the children were failed. None of these conclude that only Tommy Robinson could have changed things^

Exactly Iam

It is well documented that the young girls were failed by many people/agencies/systems.

NotSpaghetti Wed 19-Mar-25 09:05:50

This is a ridiculous argument!
Tommy Robinson / Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon is filled with hate. He is a well known anti-Islam campaigner.

The story about the young girls in Rotherham is shocking and very very sad but maybe it's more informative to read up on him (and therefore his angle on this) first! The recent call for a national inquiry into these and other rape and sexual abuse gangs threw up many questions in parliament.
If you are interested in the idea of another inquiry:
www.theguardian.com/society/2025/jan/08/does-the-uk-need-another-national-inquiry-into-and-sexual-abuse-gangs

Has Tommy Robinson advanced the cause of victims?
The claims: This has largely come from Musk and the coterie of hard- and far-right X users he has recently discovered. According to their narrative, Robinson, the adopted name of Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, is a journalist and campaigner who has brought the abuse scandal to prominence, and has in response been unjustly jailed by the state and is a political prisoner.
The reality: This is a much easier one to adjudicate, as pretty much everything Musk has said or spread about Robinson is complete nonsense. A longtime far-right agitator, he made his name leading the English Defence League, and anti-Islam street group that organised violent street protests in Luton, Robinson’s home town. He has criminal convictions for assault, mortgage fraud and trying to illegally enter the US. He is now in jail for contempt of court for repeating false allegations against a Syrian refugee.

Don't forget, the Alexis Jay inquiry (which the conservative government failed to implement - they say they intened to implement some) found that there was not enough data from the police case studies to know whether any particular ethnic group was overrepresented - although that was definitely being reported but at the same time, a background literature review suggested that most perpetrators of child sexual exploitation were young white men (though not necessarily in gangs).

This piece is a bit old (Oct 2018) so hasnt caught up completely but it is excellent for understanding the reasons behind the rise of the "far right" - and it explains the rise of Tommy Robinson during this period.

www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/25/tommy-robinson-and-the-far-rights-new-playbook

It's a much more informative read!

Churchview Wed 19-Mar-25 08:54:44

Regardless of the fact that Tommy Robinson is, amongst many other things, a tax evading, violent football hooligan, I thought it was a bit rich of her to blame the media for ignoring the grooming gangs when the Conservative party did a good job of ignoring this appalling issue for a good 10 years.

Cossy Wed 19-Mar-25 08:39:42

I’ve skimmed this and to herald Robinson as some form of modern day hero is a joke!

He leapt on this as a way of showcasing “wicked evil black men” attacking white British girls.

It doesn’t matter what colour, creed, religion or nationality the perpetrators or the victims are/were.

This is an abhorrent crime committed by men on under age vulnerable girls and all involved should be punished and the victims offered counselling.

I find it insulting to the victims that Robinson is using these awful events to further his own racist rhetoric.

Iam64 Wed 19-Mar-25 08:28:46

RosieandherMaw

An interesting thread title.
I wondered if he’d transitioned 🤔🤔🤔

👍🏻

Iam64 Wed 19-Mar-25 08:28:21

I’ve read it quickly. Like many others, I was aware of the organised sexual exploitation of vulnerable children, many living in residential care homes. The abusers were mainly men of Muslim Pakistani heritage, taxi drivers, takeaway delivery night workers.
To suggest that Tommy Robinson is somehow to be seen as a brave spokesperson for those chikdren who were ignored by agencies is simply untrue.
He’s a racist exploiter.
Many health, police, probation, social workers, teachers were desperate to draw attention to this abuse, we’ d had numerous investigations into why and how the children were failed. None of these conclude that only Tommy Robinson could have changed things

RosieandherMaw Wed 19-Mar-25 08:27:00

An interesting thread title.
I wondered if he’d transitioned 🤔🤔🤔

spottybook Wed 19-Mar-25 08:14:06

Whatever your thoughts on Tommy Robinson this article by Lizzie Webb in the Conservative Woman makes interesting reading.

www.conservativewoman.co.uk/for-the-rape-victims-sake-have-mercy-on-tommy-robinson/