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A Karen - Time to Stop

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Musicgirl Tue 25-Mar-25 09:15:40

On MN at the moment, there is a very interesting discussion on the lazy, misogynistic and ageist use of it name Karen to describe an older lady who is not afraid to stand up for herself. As Karen was a very popular name for girls born in the fifties and sixties, it is exactly targeted at the demographic of most of us here. There is no male equivalent. It is also upsetting for ladies called Karen. I would be interested in your thoughts, especially if your name is Karen or you have been insulted by being called a Karen

Rula Tue 25-Mar-25 13:51:23

Oh Rosie! These cases are all documented. I'm incapable of posting links with my ridiculous phone.

These cases are all legitimate

Please don't think that these cases are fake. Some are, most people who agree used to social media can spot fakes.

Just Google bloke in park being falsely accused. The film he took of her is there. The woman was arrested

Please don't be one of those people who disbelieve everything because it's on that dreadful Internet!!

MSM are pretty good at lying though.

Rula Tue 25-Mar-25 13:54:37

A white woman in New York is facing a criminal charge for calling 911 on a black man after he asked her to put her dog on a lead in Central Park.

Amy Cooper, who was shown calling police in a viral video, is accused of filing a false report, punishable by up to one year in jail.

Ms Cooper lost her job and dog after the incident, and publicly apologised

That's from the BBC. This is fact.

You need to start THINKING, Rosie!

AGAA4 Tue 25-Mar-25 13:57:28

I can believe these stories as parts of the USA have been very racist.

Rula Tue 25-Mar-25 13:58:24

These are not fake. Please do some research before accusing someone of being naive!

Rula Tue 25-Mar-25 13:59:36

AGAA4

I can believe these stories as parts of the USA have been very racist.

Absolutely.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Tue 25-Mar-25 14:59:16

Seems ‘a Karen’ = an entitled b**ch then? A derogatory term, not a complimentary one?

AGAA4 Tue 25-Mar-25 15:27:38

It's women who get all the blame though when white men are just as racist. I think anyone who behaves badly towards someone else is a disgrace.
A friend was touring round the southern states of America with her sixteen year old son. They stopped at a garage and witnessed a white man bullying a young black woman and calling her names.
Before she could him her son marched up to the man and said "Excuse me but you shouldn't talk to a lady like that." The man stood there open mouthed and the young woman ran away.

Rula Tue 25-Mar-25 15:27:51

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Seems ‘a Karen’ = an entitled b**ch then? A derogatory term, not a complimentary one?

Yep. Certainly not complimentary.

It will die down eventually. My friend Sharon is relieved she can now give her name and not be met with sniggering

AGAA4 Tue 25-Mar-25 15:28:24

stop him

RosieandherMaw Tue 25-Mar-25 15:32:19

Rula

These are not fake. Please do some research before accusing someone of being naive!

I have seen the same “actors” - although that does a disservice to all in the acting profession in more than one of these- especially featuring “Karens”. The “First class air passenger “ is a favourite, the CEO masquerading as housekeeping or interview candidate another, also the “You’re clearly not rich enough to live here” scenario.
The language is stilted and frequently barely English.
Wise up!

keepingquiet Tue 25-Mar-25 15:33:25

I have heard mention of make Karens. I don't buy into it male or female...

RosieandherMaw Tue 25-Mar-25 15:33:26

And Tik-tok hardly “From our own correspondent” ! 🤣🤣🤣

RosieandherMaw Tue 25-Mar-25 15:39:11

And don’t blame Rosie - it’s her Maw who writes the posts !

RosieandherMaw Tue 25-Mar-25 15:39:52

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Seems ‘a Karen’ = an entitled b**ch then? A derogatory term, not a complimentary one?

Watch it FGT 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Allira Tue 25-Mar-25 15:44:30

The internet, particularly Tik Tok, is awash with fake 'Karen' videos, it's an industry.

Primrose53 Tue 25-Mar-25 15:49:56

I understood a Karen was an older woman who had very strong opinions and told people what she thought without them asking. A Karen is never wrong, always complaining about things and super critical and very nosey.

AGAA4 Tue 25-Mar-25 15:52:21

RosieandherMaw

And don’t blame Rosie - it’s her Maw who writes the posts !

Rosie is keeping well out of it. Can't say I blame her.

Rula Tue 25-Mar-25 15:55:27

RosieandherMaw, yes, I am well aware that we get to see actors, wannabe actors, faking.

But are you saying that those clips from the BBC and the Guardian are fake?

Surely you don't think that!

silverlining48 Tue 25-Mar-25 15:57:58

How whoever started this nonsense came to pick on Karen to be so rude about that name, why not call them Rula instead? Sound bossy to me, ruler….Or preferably, just by their name.

Like Rosie I also have that name but it’s spelled differently because of a European connection, where it is a traditional name. Similar to Elizabeth perhaps. Never goes out of ‘fashion’.

As for your example the woman concerned was called Amy.
Please don’t give any more oxygen to such nonsense.

RosieandherMaw Tue 25-Mar-25 16:02:38

Rula

*RosieandherMaw*, yes, I am well aware that we get to see actors, wannabe actors, faking.

But are you saying that those clips from the BBC and the Guardian are fake?

Surely you don't think that!

No, I was saying that TikTok is awash with fake videos which I would not cite as evidence of anything.
Surely that was clear enough?

Rula Tue 25-Mar-25 16:04:35

I think we need to talk about Tiktok. No matter what the older generation thinks , this is where younger generations now get their news.

5 years ago I was just like you all. Thinking it was full of rubbish. However, I now realise it's no such thing.

There's an awful lot of kids dancing, girls pouting, silly stuff

But it's not just that. It's so educational. So much to be found. I have learned a great deal.
Also, dogs . Greyhounds. I've had a couple. Fabulous dogs. Owners of all breeds are out there with Fabulous clips of their pets. Educational, advice about anything and everything

I'm quite obsessed with abandoned buildings . So many to see. Graveyards where ships go to be dismantled. Politics discussions with all sides of a discussion. All major news channels are on there. BBC, CNN, all of them.

I was educated about the horrendous flooding in North Carolina which hardly made national press. I could go on and on but I won't.

But please, don't be blind to this. You need to wise up. This is the now and present and future. Don't get left behind

Oreo Tue 25-Mar-25 16:06:29

Primrose53

I understood a Karen was an older woman who had very strong opinions and told people what she thought without them asking. A Karen is never wrong, always complaining about things and super critical and very nosey.

Yeah, that’s the idea, she is also white, middle class , middle aged and wears her hair in a short blonde bob. It came from the US and denotes an ‘entitled’ woman.It’s stupid and hurtful to all women named Karen.

CanadianGran Tue 25-Mar-25 16:07:13

I hate that the name Karen is used in such a derogatory name, since one of my very good friends is named Karen. She's a lovely and warm person.

I do correct people when I hear the term used in such a manner.

Rula Tue 25-Mar-25 16:09:04

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Oreo Tue 25-Mar-25 16:09:22

RosieandherMaw

And don’t blame Rosie - it’s her Maw who writes the posts !

Lovely pic of the doggy, what a life it has! It’s own pillow on the sofa😂does it sleep all the time? I would like to see a pic when she’s awake.