Harry’s over for a Court case but not to see his Papa. 🤔

Quote Calendargirl Tue 08-Apr-25 19:15:13
Harry came to see Charles after his cancer diagnosis, they did meet briefly, then Charles left to go somewhere. (This is to silverlining)

It appeared to be an unplanned visit by Harry, so not
surprising his father had other commitments really.

Harry flew in to see Charles who had just been released from
hospital,the press knew where he was flying from , time of flight.he was met at the airport with a car and much protection,
he was driven to Clarence House where the King was shortly to be leaving for Sandringham, it was a short visit.
Just a few days later he gave an interview on American tv

A sobering thought Iam.
Thank you for reminding us that estrangements can be complicated.

I think my OP was pointing out that Harry did not want to overlap with any time for his Papa. Doubly sad really when one considers the cancer factor.

Anniebach

It is possible to fly into the country a few days earlier

Indeed Anniebach I didn’t see your post before I commented to Ziplok.
I agree with you here.

Ziplok

The thing if, if Harry is here for a court case, then he will be tied to the time the lawyers/judge, etc, say it can be heard. So, if it’s coincided with King Charles and Queen Camilla being in Italy, that’s just the way of it - he can’t be dictating to the Court when a case will be heard, I imagine.

I get what you’re saying Ziplok but he doesn’t have a job … he could have flown over a couple of days earlier to see his Papa … if he’d wanted to I think. Obviously not.

Cossy

Luckygirl3

This is a dysfunctional family - there are faults on both sides and faults going back generations - it is very sad for all of them.

It is not helped by piling in to take sides. It just fuels the flames. In all honesty why would any decent kind person want to do that?

Let us leave them in peace to try and sort this out. In truth we none of us know what has gone on behind the scenes so are not in a position to judge.

👏👏

Look at the estrangement threads is gransnet, the find it in your heart to continue to criticise this family, especially Harry, if you can.
I can’t, I worked with families, I live in one. All families are dysfunctional, some more than others. Count your blessings if your family is ok ish. Reflect on the pain the RF has and continues to experience.

Harry came to see Charles after his cancer diagnosis, they did meet briefly, then Charles left to go somewhere. (This is to silverlining)

It appeared to be an unplanned visit by Harry, so not surprising his father had other commitments really.

Who is he constantly waving to?
I watched a quick clip, (I'm abroad, so not following much), and as he paced a dozen or steps past the court railings, he waved three times. Like a royal visitor.

The day of Prince Phillip’s funeral, Harry shared with the world how he didn’t get full attention from his father and brother

ferry23

Oh come on. Harry will have access to HM's diary just like anyone else.

He will know they're on a State Visit to Italy - he could have flown in a couple of days earlier.

If they're truly estranged, would he even bother to look?

I wouldn't look to the diary of someone estranged to me.

petra

Crossstitchfan

We can’t know what goes on behind closed doors and certainly can’t believe much of what the papers say. However, if Harry is making no effort at all to see his father, maybe there is more going on than has been implied.
I have always thought that Harry bears no resemblance in any way, personality or looks, to William, or indeed any of the family. In fact some years ago, it was put about that King Charles was not his father. If this happens to be true, it would explain a lot.
It’s sad because Harry has not only removed himself from the rest of the family, he as also taken away the chance of King Charles getting to know two of his grandchildren. When he comes back to the UK, he comes alone.
Very sad and rather unkind, in my opinion.

He might not look like his mother/ father/ brother but he’s a dead ringer of his grandfather.

I think that in recent photo's he does show a likeness to Charles

ferry23

Oh come on. Harry will have access to HM's diary just like anyone else.

He will know they're on a State Visit to Italy - he could have flown in a couple of days earlier.

Exactly!

But having said that, maybe William is really the son of a man with blonder hair

Or no hair at all?
Only joking!

The visit I was talking about was to a Scottish castle, a private holiday visit, after his hospital treatment, not a state visit which of course would take precedence, which could have been delayed for an hour.
Anyway it’s not my business , I am just one of millions who, whether I like it or not, contribute to the lifestyle.

Crossstitchfan

We can’t know what goes on behind closed doors and certainly can’t believe much of what the papers say. However, if Harry is making no effort at all to see his father, maybe there is more going on than has been implied.
I have always thought that Harry bears no resemblance in any way, personality or looks, to William, or indeed any of the family. In fact some years ago, it was put about that King Charles was not his father. If this happens to be true, it would explain a lot.
It’s sad because Harry has not only removed himself from the rest of the family, he as also taken away the chance of King Charles getting to know two of his grandchildren. When he comes back to the UK, he comes alone.
Very sad and rather unkind, in my opinion.

He might not look like his mother/ father/ brother but he’s a dead ringer of his grandfather.

Oh come on. Harry will have access to HM's diary just like anyone else.

He will know they're on a State Visit to Italy - he could have flown in a couple of days earlier.

Anniebach

The King should arrange his appointments to fit with his son ?

Are you being ironic?
I think State visits etc will always take precedence as they have to accommodate the schedules of so many people and institutions in both countries!
The price of being the Monarch.

Why not, if he wants to see his son.

The King should arrange his appointments to fit with his son ?

The trouble is Luckygirl, Harry and his wife have told the world about all their "troubles". Which does leave them wide open to judgment.

Anything that hints of a scandal in any royal family will grow legs and run pretty quickly.

If someone has a private jet (or two) at hand, its not a problem to delay a flight for an hour or so. I have wealthy friends, so I know ( have to say it’s only one couple, the rest are regular).

Had Charles wanted to see his son as previously mentioned, he could have done. He made a choice. That’s ok, it’s not my business to judge their decisions, because I don’t know them……though my wealthy friends have had dinners with them, but that’s another story which I won’t repeat

Luckygirl3

This is a dysfunctional family - there are faults on both sides and faults going back generations - it is very sad for all of them.

It is not helped by piling in to take sides. It just fuels the flames. In all honesty why would any decent kind person want to do that?

Let us leave them in peace to try and sort this out. In truth we none of us know what has gone on behind the scenes so are not in a position to judge.

👏👏

Luckygirl3

Oh leave the poor bugger alone! It is all speculation - like local gossip on a grand scale. There is obviously a bit of a family rift - let us leave them to sort it out in peace.

Harry obviously didn’t want to spend any time with them. - it is obvious only to you. You, nor I nor anyone else have the faintest clue about it, so need to butt out.

Well said!

I'm sorry if it's true that he's fallen out with Eugenie.
I like what we know of her.

I have no interest in Royal family personal dynamics. All that interests me is that this over-privileged professional 'victim' is trying to obtain more privileges from this Country, to the taxpayers expenses.
Never mind. If he loses he can always depend on 'jam tomorrow'.

That's pretty scathing - doubly so as it's The Times.

As time goes on he and his wife will become increasingly irrelevant here in the UK. The narrative really does have some real similarities to Edward V111 and Wallace Simpson.

It's sad though that there's such a huge rift between him and his Father & brother - just as it is in any family. The death of Diana forced Charles to step up to the plate as a Father and for a time it seemed that Charles was experiencing a bonding with his sons that was lacking in his relationship with his own parents.