Harry’s over for a Court case but not to see his Papa. 🤔

I’m puzzled by his submission that he was “forced to step back from a position as a working royal” because of the change to his security arrangements.

Surely it happened the other way about?

Harry is becoming increasingly like his mother and his uncle; he is all Spencer.

The royal family have moved on. He has not.

Apparently a decision won’t be made for a few weeks. I thought it was all going to be over today so why is Harry even here?

Now, let me think. 🤔

Yes it happened the other away around Lathyrus but the truth isn't a priority with Harry.

He is now accusing the late Queen of withdrawing security .

Today is not only the King and Queen’s 20th wedding anniversary, it’s also four years since Prince Philip died.

I think both anniversaries will be remembered by Charles.

Just another example of not how recollections vary Annie.

Why would he want to come back here, his family are racist,
the press are racist, he is offered inferior security. Makes one
weep for him

Lathyrus3

I’m puzzled by his submission that he was “forced to step back from a position as a working royal” because of the change to his security arrangements.

Surely it happened the other way about?

Yes, it was removed from 2020 when he stepped down from his rôle as a working Royal.

Anniebach

He is now accusing the late Queen of withdrawing security .

It was Ravec which removed his security. It seemed logical as he was stepping away from Royal duties, Royal life and moving abroad with his family.

His lawyer seems to be tying herself up in knots and this is all costing British taxpayers a lot of money.

It's cost us, the UK taxpayers, £500,000 already apparently, for him to keep bringing these court cases.

Shouldn't he pay costs if he loses? Isn't that what usually happens?

Yes, he should.
If he loses.

There are no winners here. A family schism hurts all concerned in different ways and to different depths I imagine. Harry is doing his best as is his father and older brother. They will muddle through life, perhaps overlapping, perhaps not.

It’s just really sad to witness as owing to their status and degree of public interest, it gets played out on the world stage.

Most families are able to keep their business under wraps and just share what they choose to.

Harry made his choice. He must lie in the bed he chose as far as I’m concerned. With choices come consequences and his perceived lack of security was one such. That said he’s wealthy! Very. He could visit and pay for his own security no problem but I think he’s dug in now and sees this as a matter of principle for a royal born Prince.

He seems a mixed up lad. He didn’t want to ‘be royal’ anymore and to some extent I can sympathise. But he can’t cherry pick. It’s like you can’t be a little bit pregnant. You’re in The Firm, or not.

I was hoping there might have been some reconnection by now, especially with his Papa’s cancer condition but apparently that’s not shifted the dial any so his feelings must be pretty concrete by now.

He has a beautiful wife, gorgeous children, a stunning home. I wish he could be happier with all the blessings he has in his life and I just hoped (the reason for the thread) he could maybe be magnanimous towards his family by now. Say ‘sorry’ perhaps? It would go a long way and someone has to make the first move.

Sadly he’s not there yet.
I hope in time, given his Papa’s palliative chemotherapy treatment, he doesn’t leave it too late.
Thereby would lie regrets that could not be put right and I think his mental health is fragile enough.
Missing the boat would make him a very bitter man I think.

There are no winners here. So right fgt

I think his mental health is fragile enough

And it has never been helped by his wife.

We don’t know that. We are not privy to their marriage.
They seem happy and have so many of life’s blessings.

I do think Harry’s Papa would love to see his grandchildren while he can. But Harry will know that.

We only see what H&Ms publicists decide to show. No idea how happy they really are.
They shafted the Royal family to make money and calling their daughter Lilibet is absolutely beyond the pale. The sheer insensitivity and tastelessness of that is unforgivable.

Smileless2012

Shouldn't he pay costs if he loses? Isn't that what usually happens?

Of course.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

We don’t know that. We are not privy to their marriage.
They seem happy and have so many of life’s blessings.

I do think Harry’s Papa would love to see his grandchildren while he can. But Harry will know that.

And how they name their children is entirely their business
Sheesh - what if they were your family

He has betrayed trust, once this happens going back is so frightening, more so for the royal family because it’s so public

Can he be trusted ?

The fact is that none of us know exactly what went on behind closed doors. Perhaps unforgivable things were said on all sides? There are plenty of stories of estranged families on here to illustrate that there can be all kinds of reasons why situations like this can arise.
Speculate as much as you want as to who is to blame etc, but the fact is that none of us know the real reasons behind it all. I've made no secret of the fact that I couldn't give two hoots about the RF, but I don't think things are as black and white as some people seem to think - ie, H&M bad, everyone else good.
When it comes to family dynamics and situations like this, there's usually far more to it than meets the eye.

Viseversa 💖💙

Betrayal of trust not behind closed doors but on world wide television

That's the whole point. They publicised, monetised their side of the story.
The Queen acted with such dignity and summed the situation up, 'Recollections may vary'.