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anniehall123 Sun 13-Apr-25 13:31:39

Hello, it is I again. This is my dilemma, should I keep offering help or suggestions to my 20 year old granddaughter who is looking for a job but has no car (which I would love to buy for her but I can't afford it as then of course I would also have to help buy my grandson one) so currently she is trying to take a confusing bus route to these job interviews and she can't really understand the times and destinatons etc., (they are confusing), I did suggest she ask the driver of the bus when she gets on or some passengers. We left the convo at that. But now I keep thinking because she has ADD too and she is very reluctant to ask for help from her mother or father, (her mother is not very engaged in my opinion, and her father does work a lot), that I should send her another text and suggest she ask them for help to read the bus schedule at least, or if she is reluctant to ask them herself I could send a text to all of them suggesting they sit down and help her with the bus schedule, but I would also tell her I would not do that unless she wanted me to. *(I personally think they need to make more of an effort to help get her a car so she can get a job), but her mother who has mental issues is just very unengaged in parenting etc, and just says my granddaughter will be alright. But my fear is that while my granddaughter right now is very steady and kind of down to earth and not depressed at all, she does have add and I fear that she will follow in her mother's chronic depressive footsteps if she doesn't succeed at getting a job and does not get the help that might make her successful. Hence, my desire to always help her in someway even if that is maybe interfering in her life.
Sorry, so my question is one: Should I send another text to my granddaughter and ask her the following: if she made it to the two job interviews (she had and was not sure she could get to in time because of that bus schedule) and then suggest that she might want to ask her mom and dad to sit down with her and look over the bus schedule even though she may feel they are too busy, they would definitely help her, or if she wanted I could send a text to both her and them to ask if they could all sit down and help her with it, but I would also assure her I would not send a text to them if she does not want me to and then ask her for her thoughts. Or....should I just stay completely out of the whole situation (I live in Virginia 200miles from them so that is why I text and I can no longer make the trip to see them), because even if she has ADD and even if yes she may get discouraged and end up like her mother, it is not up to me to try and change that, they have to figure it out on their own. Sorry, know this is a confusing text, but I am always just really torn between wanting to help my granddaughter as much as possible on the one hand and wanting to just stay out of things and let their lives fall as they may. What do you all think.

Allsorts Sun 13-Apr-25 20:44:11

Leave her to it, you're not helping.

Norah Sun 13-Apr-25 20:39:47

Hithere

Op,

Based on your multiple threads in thr past, you need to drop it.

May I ask why you expect different feedback?

Every day is a school day on GN!

I have no sense of right or left but can read maps and follow directions. I shall study up on directional dyslexia, TY M0nica. My darling husband has a good sense of direction but is numbers dyslexic.

We're all challenged by something, aren't we?

OP is in Virginia, in America, I suspect sat nav means nothing to her. They have GPS, I believe. Yes it would be on their mobile phone.

CocoPops Sun 13-Apr-25 17:42:08

How about using Uber sometimes?

Hithere Sun 13-Apr-25 17:40:47

Op,

Based on your multiple threads in thr past, you need to drop it.

May I ask why you expect different feedback?

CocoPops Sun 13-Apr-25 17:39:13

She can use her smart phone . Google maps is her friend. Enter departure point ( home address) and arrival point ( interview address). Select "day" eg "today" or "tomorrow", "arrival time" and mode of transport ie "bus" and directions will pop up and give her the time of her journey.

Hithere Sun 13-Apr-25 17:38:54

Don't enable her

Delila Sun 13-Apr-25 17:04:50

We’re all different, we can’t assume that any of our experiences match Annie’s granddaughter’s. The OP knows her well and understands her limitations - that’s fair enough.

Given that this is her situation, it seems reasonable to help her to build up the confidence to become more independent. This doesn’t seem to be available from her parents so, taking the distance into account, I’d talk it through in as much detail as necessary over the phone in the first place, to gain an understanding of how much help is actually needed. This will give her the message that your door is open when help or advice is needed.

What’s the harm?

M0nica Sun 13-Apr-25 17:01:14

Sorry, map reading, or diagram reading, or following directions

ViceVersa Sun 13-Apr-25 17:01:01

BlueBelle

I think you shouldn’t baby her ADD won’t make her unable to travel on her own She will need to learn other methods and other ways to get past any problems she has Help her to be independent by making suggestions but don’t get too hung up on “helping” because if you’re 200 miles away you can’t help physically she will have to learn her own ways to get round things and she needs to find those ways herself she is old enough

Totally agree with this. And it could be that she is playing on the not being able to understand bus timetables etc in the hope that someone will just take pity on her and get her a car. If you're too far away to sit down with her and help her physically, there must be someone closer who could do it. How will she ever cope with a job etc if she can't even master a bus timetable?

M0nica Sun 13-Apr-25 17:00:06

It sounds to me as if either, your DGD has been misdiagnosed with ADD or that as well as having ADD she has a specific neural disability, sometimea, called directional dyslexia, which has to do with people who find it difficult to cope with mapr reading ordiagram reading or following directions.. Can she tell left from right. This is the first step to directional dyslexia.

It runs in my family, DD and my late sister, cannot/couldn't tell left from right without thought and had no sense of direction. I have the left/right problem, but no further.

Anyway, there is a quite easy solution to her problem, and she probably carries around with her all the time. Every smart phone has a sat nav app. This will give you the best routes by road/public transport.

Having ADD is not an excuse for being helpless. It is knowing exactly what a problem is so that you can work out tactics and ways of dealing with it. For regular routes, practice it, again and again and again. Work hard with your at nav, Your DGD, could set herself challenges to navigate her way around different areas. First doing lots of practice at home, working the route out at home, tyring memorise it and checking back, using google maps to look at key places in Streetview.

Your DGD best help with a job is being able to go to an interview and say. 'I have this problem, and this is the solution I have worked out'

In the meanwhile, Here is a useful link www.dyslexia-reading-well.com/directional-dyslexia.html

sue421 Sun 13-Apr-25 16:58:15

At the age of 17 I had to organise myself, with buses, which as I lived on Dartmoor I never had a clue about, Trains, well I knew the stations but how do I get to the bus stop in central city. I soon learnt.
At this moment in time I haven't driven long distances and before these circumstances took over I would have driven everywhere. So at 74 I have to build my confidence....
You are not responsible for your granddaughter growing up, her parents are there to help her. You need your money to ensure you are well looked after, can put the heating on and eat well. Sorry do I seem harsh? But if we molly coddle the youngsters will they survive. Not having a car is life or death

Debbi58 Sun 13-Apr-25 16:49:34

My adult daughter had Add. She passed her test last year , she was 32. So never too late. But the cost is very high now for lessons and a car, we were lucky enough to be able to pay for our daughter. If you live in the UK, I believe there is a app that you can use for bus times etc ,

pascal30 Sun 13-Apr-25 15:59:42

Surely she can go to the bus station enquiries office and get someone there to help her..

BlueBelle Sun 13-Apr-25 15:49:08

I think you shouldn’t baby her ADD won’t make her unable to travel on her own She will need to learn other methods and other ways to get past any problems she has Help her to be independent by making suggestions but don’t get too hung up on “helping” because if you’re 200 miles away you can’t help physically she will have to learn her own ways to get round things and she needs to find those ways herself she is old enough

Celieanne86 Sun 13-Apr-25 15:46:38

Surely at 20 years of age, a woman not a child, your grandaughter should be able to make sense of bus or train timetables. I was using a bus to get to work at the same age and was so fed up of getting up early, standing in queues, bad weather I left what was a good job and found one nearer home which was about a half hour walk. I bought a second hand Vespa (remember them) and cut the journey down to less than 10 minutes. I saved a fortune on bus fares, was a far happier person, loved the new job and eventually bought a little car. My philosophy is where there’s a will there’s a way. I think this young lady is not helping herself and grannie should stop interfering it’s making matters worse.

petra Sun 13-Apr-25 15:40:44

At the start of last week I said to my granddaughter right, your going to get used to buses
She’s 15 and has only been on a bus once. That was with us.
I havnt been on a bus for 10 years.
I told her to download the app. Told her she could pay on her phone.
She bought a day ticket so we got on/ got off wherever we felt like it.
All I have to do is get her to take a bus on her own to my house.
I think that might take some work 😂

Greenfinch Sun 13-Apr-25 15:33:51

I do think it is difficult to give advice if you have not walked in their shoes. If the parents are unable or unwilling to give support then the grandparents have to. I very much disagree with the “it’s not your problem “ line of thought. Sometimes it has to be. This is very much more complex than the ability to read timetables.

Norah Sun 13-Apr-25 15:25:12

But my fear is that while my granddaughter right now is very steady and kind of down to earth and not depressed at all, she does have add and I fear that she will follow in her mother's chronic depressive footsteps if she doesn't succeed at getting a job and does not get the help that might make her successful. Hence, my desire to always help her in someway even if that is maybe interfering in her life.

I've ADD, no impact on my ability to read maps, access transportation, or live my life without chronic depression.

Perhaps you're not understaning ADD, not defined as stupid.

Grannylynj Sun 13-Apr-25 15:20:44

Not your monkey

Allira Sun 13-Apr-25 15:12:04

I'd stay out of it.

Are there no jobs nearer home?

Nanato3 Sun 13-Apr-25 15:09:55

Has much as you love your GD It's not your problem. I would keep out of it .
It's the parents responsibility.

lixy Sun 13-Apr-25 15:08:38

Using the A to B route planner as noodle ut suggests is a great way to make bus travel easier. When going to an interview I have also done a trial run a few days before which settled my nerves about getting there on time.

Maybe you could send her a simple text suggesting just that, and then leave her to it?

Stay positive, interested and encouraging in her quest to find the ideal job - there’s one out there for everyone. I hope she finds hers soon.

Norah Sun 13-Apr-25 15:03:17

anniehall123 I live in Virginia 200miles from them

I think public transportation in America can be a bit difficult to understand. Northern Virginia, near DC, is far better served by bus and train. If she is near DC - perhaps look to VA.gov sites?

We've visited, with our children and grandchildren, to DC for spring holidays. The metro lines around DC have printable maps.

www.virginia.gov/agencies/department-of-rail-and-public-transportation/#:~:text=The%20mission%20of%20the%20Department,reliable%20and%20cost%2Deffective%20manner.

Grannylynj Sun 13-Apr-25 15:00:49

Gosh there are some very helpful people here!!

Sago Sun 13-Apr-25 14:53:17

There are numerous free apps that will explain public transport routes.

If she can’t work out a bus route can she hold down a job?