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can you make a protest about an ancient tree being cut down?

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infoman Wed 16-Apr-25 07:57:42

Toby Carvery have been criticised for cutting down an ancient tree near one of their eateries in Enfield. After similar incidents at Sycamore gap and Plymouth,is nothing sacred? Maybe a boycott of Toby Carvery over the coming weeks might them think about what they have done.Time for Wetherspoons to take advantage me thinks.

Allira Thu 17-Apr-25 17:04:20

I'd ask the Tree Officer to come and advise you.

A tree fell down on friends' roof during Storm Daragh, luckily no-one was hurt but they need a new roof.

garnet25 Thu 17-Apr-25 17:18:05

NotSpaghetti. Thank you for the information. I'm a tree lover and wish to save and plant as many trees as possible.

watermeadow Thu 17-Apr-25 18:39:41

I’ve never heard of any ‘tree surgeon’ saying any tree was healthy. Their income is cutting down trees.
How people hate a big tree which shades their house and drops leaves on it! Most new estates give every house a patch of grass surrounded by 6’ fencing.
The Toby Carvery lied about a report that said that magnificent oak was healthy and would live another 100 years. It was worth 100 of their nondescript cafes and I hope they are prosecuted and fined hugely.

Grammaretto Thu 17-Apr-25 18:42:32

My tree surgeon told me that my trees were fine so he pollarded one and left the other. Both trees were bothering my neighbour, not me.

Grammaretto Thu 17-Apr-25 18:45:57

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MayBee70 Thu 17-Apr-25 19:18:18

watermeadow

I’ve never heard of any ‘tree surgeon’ saying any tree was healthy. Their income is cutting down trees.
How people hate a big tree which shades their house and drops leaves on it! Most new estates give every house a patch of grass surrounded by 6’ fencing.
The Toby Carvery lied about a report that said that magnificent oak was healthy and would live another 100 years. It was worth 100 of their nondescript cafes and I hope they are prosecuted and fined hugely.

The moss that grows everywhere on my path and driveway is a slip hazard, especially now I’m older and have dodgy knees. The Silver Birch seeds mean that I have to keep windows closed and my dog treads them into the house. They are everywhere even though I change into house shoes when I’ve been in the garden. The garage returned my car while I was away and couldn’t park it where I’d asked them to so I had to arrange for someone to move it otherwise the pigeon poo would have started to corrode it. I can’t use my patio door. I have to put cardboard down because of the pigeon poo. I have to clean it off my new UPVC windows asap and it damaged the old wooden windows. I have to pay to have my gutters cleaned twice a year as the pine needles and cones fill them almost as soon as they’ve been removed ( a cost that eats into my small pension). The birch seeds also get into my car engine! As a town girl I was thrilled to buy a house surrounded by trees but now I’m older it’s a constant battle to keep on top of it all.

NotSpaghetti Thu 17-Apr-25 19:35:00

A tree surgeon told me that a tree that my neighbour thought was "dangerous" and "split" was in fact fine.
He climbed it to check on the "split".

A genuine tree surgeon doesn't just chop them down you know watermeadow.

Neither Grammaretto nor I have found that to be the case.

Allira Thu 17-Apr-25 21:21:51

A genuine tree surgeon doesn't just chop them down you know watermeadow.

Quite right.

If you need to choose a tree surgeon, have a look to see if your Council has a list of approved tree surgeons on its website.

WelwynWitch3 Fri 18-Apr-25 13:22:07

MOnica. I come from Enfield and Whitewebbs is a lovely park with lots of beautiful trees. The oak in question was not in danger of falling down the council had it properly checked by responsible company last year who found it to be in very good condition for an ancient 500yr old tree and it could have continued it’s life for many many more years to come, oak trees can live for 1000 yrs. The Tobery Carvery leased the land from the Council and therefore should have applied for permission before touching the tree, they didn’t and the Council have reported the vandalism to the police, and rightly so.

M0nica Fri 18-Apr-25 20:27:40

watermeadow

I’ve never heard of any ‘tree surgeon’ saying any tree was healthy. Their income is cutting down trees.
How people hate a big tree which shades their house and drops leaves on it! Most new estates give every house a patch of grass surrounded by 6’ fencing.
The Toby Carvery lied about a report that said that magnificent oak was healthy and would live another 100 years. It was worth 100 of their nondescript cafes and I hope they are prosecuted and fined hugely.

Rubbish! we have worked with tree surgeons who helped us keep two trees in different places alive and thriving. The crown of the magnficent hazel tree in our garden was lifted and trimmed back slightly regularly for 25 years.

The same with ahug Holm Oak. We kept it trimmed and shaped and google maths show it is flourishing still, 20 years after the house was sold

Silverbrooks Fri 18-Apr-25 21:47:35

I also come from Enfield (although I no longer live there) but know the park well. As I said on page one of this discussion, something about this stinks.

This latest piece in The Guardian discloses that the links between Mitchell & Butler Retail and Tottenham Hotspur Football Club. They are owned by the same investment company. This incident need a thorough investigation.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/apr/17/felled-enfield-oak-tree-spurs-toby-carvery-london

Jasudow Sat 19-Apr-25 08:08:41

Our local church has a stunning old oak tree ( older than the church itself). New owners bought the house next door and erected a fence, taking a few feet of churches land and making the tree in their garden. The intention was to cut the tree down but church members and other neighbours put up a fight to have the new fence removed and the proper boundaries restored so the tree was saved. Also in the village car park , an oak tree of a similar age they p council wanted to remove. The community tied ribbons around the tree and created such a protest that the plans were reversed. We need to look after our trees. So many are disappearing from gardens and public spots