Truly disgusting photo in today’s Times 🤬

JenniferEccles

I wonder why this story has been resurrected by The Times . It happened in 2012.

i don’t know much about game hunting so I’ve looked it up.
Apparently it is necessary at times to cull certain species, if, for example their numbers have increased to the point that they impact on livestock which support poor African communities.
Then of course there is the danger of these big cats to humans.

I’ve no idea whether Trump’s sons were on an organised shoot or not as I haven’t read the Times article, but after all the condemnation I wanted to suggest an alternative explanation.

I don’t believe for one moment leopards would be “culled” and if any animal needed to be destroyed for any other reason I’d expect professional or locals to be used, not the Trumps

Re. game birds, close to us they used to rear pheasants for shooting. They frequently came into our garden and were so fat they could hardly launch themselves off the ground to fly. (Great sport, idon’t think). Haven’t seen many recently so I think they have stopped breeding them.

JenniferEccles

I wonder why this story has been resurrected by The Times . It happened in 2012.

i don’t know much about game hunting so I’ve looked it up.
Apparently it is necessary at times to cull certain species, if, for example their numbers have increased to the point that they impact on livestock which support poor African communities.
Then of course there is the danger of these big cats to humans.

I’ve no idea whether Trump’s sons were on an organised shoot or not as I haven’t read the Times article, but after all the condemnation I wanted to suggest an alternative explanation.

The species that is out of hand and a danger to every other species on earth, is the human species.

I don't know if the venison is eaten Allira.
I do know, having recently witnessed a kill inadvertently that the chase is brutal, cruel and drawn out.
There must be more humane ways to kill the animal whether it is eaten or not.
There is no need for people to wear fancy clothes and sound horns as a part of reveling in the process.

I thought you meant this one- this video - now that is also truly disgusting, 2 men lechering, Epstein and Trump.

www.facebook.com/reel/1443980463431605

I just googled it Witzend and up came a list of pros and cons of culling the big cat population in Africa.

JenniferEccles, I’d be very interested to know where you’ve ever seen reports of leopards needing to be culled.

Churchview

They cull deer on Exmoor.

Two or three times a week a group of men and women (often more women than men) dress up to the nines and ride out on horses, pursue deer across country with dogs (it's still possible to hunt with two dogs) and then, sometimes after hours of chase, they shoot the deer when it is totally run into the ground.

Then they sound a horn in celebration. The hunt is a club set up entirely for this purpose.

This isn't a cull - it's sport. All entirely legal

Do they then eat the venison?

nanna8

Not a bad idea but not politically correct Allira😀

Oh dear!!

Those in charge do keep trying though.
Wars, famine, plagues.

They cull deer on Exmoor.

Two or three times a week a group of men and women (often more women than men) dress up to the nines and ride out on horses, pursue deer across country with dogs (it's still possible to hunt with two dogs) and then, sometimes after hours of chase, they shoot the deer when it is totally run into the ground.

Then they sound a horn in celebration. The hunt is a club set up entirely for this purpose.

This isn't a cull - it's sport. All entirely legal

I can understand the need to cull everone that lives off the land can. To kill for sport vile. If I had to kill anything to survive I couldn't. There has always been people, mainly men who think killing animals for sport is fun. Under cover here, dogs are still used in dog fighting. People found guilty of it should face the strongest penalty possible, hit their pockets and show their faces, make them do community work.

I believe the birds the Royals shoot out the sky are bred especially to be killed what kind of ‘leader’ of a country is that
and have the cheek to call it sport’ !!!!
Trump and his family are disgusting and everything I abhor, as I do any animal killer including the awful Jeremy Clarkson man and his badger killing.
Killing an animal is NEVER a sport or an entertainment now
I m thinking of Spanish bullfighting
All hideous
Humans are SO cruel

Not a bad idea but not politically correct Allira😀

Apparently it is necessary at times to cull certain species
Then of course there is the danger of these big cats to humans.

Not to mention the danger of humans to big cats.

How about we cull humans and leave the big cat numbers to recover?

I wonder why this story has been resurrected by The Times . It happened in 2012.

i don’t know much about game hunting so I’ve looked it up.
Apparently it is necessary at times to cull certain species, if, for example their numbers have increased to the point that they impact on livestock which support poor African communities.
Then of course there is the danger of these big cats to humans.

I’ve no idea whether Trump’s sons were on an organised shoot or not as I haven’t read the Times article, but after all the condemnation I wanted to suggest an alternative explanation.

royals do that all the time and any trmp should been in a cage

Ilovedogs22

Horrendous, what sort of people are they!! What possible pleasure could they derive from murdering a beautiful wild creature. So very sad. 😔

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Only a percentage of game birds are eaten - about half of those shot are taken by game dealers. A good percentage of game birds are not shot but die from other means.

About 50 million game birds are factory farmed and then released into the wild every year. These non native birds, who have not been raised in the wild are immediately left to fend for themselves. A good percentage are killed on roads or by foxes.

To protect the birds gamekeepers snare, poison and trap wild animals and birds. Hares, badgers, foxes and sometimes domestic pets are caught in the snares.

The lead shot used in shooting gets into the ecosystem killing further wildlife.

It's a horrible, wasteful, cruel business - often backed by taxpayer money in the form of subsidies.

Not only the Royals BlueBelle and at least the birds are eaten.

what gives them the right to even think they can kill ,they are privilaged arrogant sub humans...these beautiful animals have every right to live.

Hideous totally hideous although I don’t agree with our Royals shooting poor birds out the sky either

There are photos of them with 'trophies' of their hunting all over the internet. Vile human beings.

nanna8

I didn’t see it and I get the Times online everyday. Is it just in the hard copy ?

In our hard copy, yes.

Even over 20 years ago, on a safari hol in Kenya, we counted ourselves very lucky to see a leopard. They were by no means a common sight.

I think the photo was published as Saudia Arabia have just gifted the Smithsonian 2 Arabian leopards, which Trump is thrilled about. Apparently he has an interest in killer animals.

I’m shocked at how entitled and bad mannered children seem to be in the last 10 years. Groups of teenage school children seem very happy to push through doors whilst keeping adults waiting and parents are happy to let children sit on trains and buses whilst adults stand.
Children are also allowed to frequently interrupt adult conversations and the adults at the table are expected to stop their conversations and immediately turn their attention to the child.
When did this change? To me it’s a really bad sign that we are bringing up entitled children who believe that they’re more important than adults?