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kircubbin2000 Fri 06-Jun-25 19:39:39

I know my good friend has many opinions I might disagree with. I'm going to have to be careful around her as she has started questioning my opinions and asking me where I read that or who said it.
She was quite forceful today about the idea that anyone should bow or curtsey to royalty. It wouldn't bother me and I would comply but she absolutely would refuse. She even had the cheek to call me a Daily Mail reader but I don't want to fall out with her!

Galaxy Fri 06-Jun-25 19:47:22

So I am very close friends with someone who holds a completely different view to me on one particular 'political' issue, we both sort of know the others views but we just don't talk about it. Is that not possible?

merlotgran Fri 06-Jun-25 19:51:41

She even had the cheek to call me a Daily Mail reader

Sounds like my daughter! 😂

BlueBelle Fri 06-Jun-25 20:01:27

Well I wouldn’t curtsy either 🤣🤣🤣

Casdon Fri 06-Jun-25 20:04:36

After I fell out big time with my BiL many years ago because he believes women shouldn’t be ordained as priests, I don’t answer his questions, I now just say ‘we have different opinions on this and we aren’t going to change each others minds, so let’s talk about something else.’ I then start talking about something non controversial like holidays, gardening or whatever. It just diffuses potential arguments with people you either want or need to continue to get along with.

Retread Fri 06-Jun-25 20:10:02

Tell her (with a smile) "You do you, and I'll do me".

It did occur to me that perhaps she is hoping you'll fall out with her to save her having to fall out with you! 😄

Jackiest Fri 06-Jun-25 20:18:15

I don't think I could be friends with someone who thought I read the Daily Mail.

kircubbin2000 Fri 06-Jun-25 20:25:06

She's a Guardian reader.hmm

Cossy Fri 06-Jun-25 20:42:04

Mmmmm Never discuss religion or politics or money with close friends!

crazyH Fri 06-Jun-25 20:43:17

Religion and Politics are two subjects you should avoid discussing, with your friends. My lovely sis-in-law hates Trump with a passion. She gets quite heated. I don’t like hin either, but when every text conversation with her is just lists and lists of all the ‘evil’ he has done, it gets quite tiresome. 😫

Galaxy Fri 06-Jun-25 20:43:25

I have fallen out with a different friend over politics and do regret it, it is quite difficult to undo the fall out.

Churchview Fri 06-Jun-25 20:52:50

My brother and I have very different political opinions. We get on like a house on fire since we agreed to never talk about politics.

Wyllow3 Fri 06-Jun-25 20:53:38

Say I know you're really interested in politics, I accept you are but I'm just not as interested, and insist gently that conversation turns to common ground areas.

It's not always the "whether" to discuss politics, for me, as am interested, but whether with a friend you can embark on it in an open minded listening way not dogmatic. And some humour in it.

Witzend Fri 06-Jun-25 21:04:10

BlueBelle

Well I wouldn’t curtsy either 🤣🤣🤣

AFAIK it’s no longer obligatory anyway.

BlueBelle Fri 06-Jun-25 21:46:22

Not likely to meet any of them so it’s not a problem 🤣🤣🤣

eazybee Sat 07-Jun-25 10:29:11

It is a very basic insult, calling someone a Daily Mail Reader, and if you are retailing your own personal experience of something, oh, that is just Daily Mail Speak.
Just laugh at her; it means she has no defence to counter your point of view, but knows it is wrong because all her opinions come directly from the Guardian.

Grantanow Sat 07-Jun-25 10:36:18

Newspapers simply curate their readerships to maximise profit from circulation and advertising. The Guardian curates a left-leaning audience and the Mail a right-leaning one. Both audiences are being used to maximise profit. Newspaper content is selected to appeal to particular audiences. To some extent all this reflects the gullibility of newspaper readers.

Churchview Sat 07-Jun-25 10:38:34

I'm a Lefty who reads the Daily Mail and the Guardian amongst other papers and news sites.

If someone called me a Daily Mail reader I'd have to hold my hands up.

Grandma70s Sat 07-Jun-25 10:43:17

Cossy

Mmmmm Never discuss religion or politics or money with close friends!

What a boring friendship that would be.

M0nica Sat 07-Jun-25 14:59:39

I read the Daily Mail, and the i and the Observer. Make of that what you will. I believe you should read papers that reflect all shades of opinion, not just ones you agree with - and the Daily Mail has excellent health and financial sections.

Someone who judges someone, just on the newspaper they read, is showing themselves up as facile and superficial.

Wyllow3 Sat 07-Jun-25 15:30:54

M0nica

I read the Daily Mail, and the i and the Observer. Make of that what you will. I believe you should read papers that reflect all shades of opinion, not just ones you agree with - and the Daily Mail has excellent health and financial sections.

Someone who judges someone, just on the newspaper they read, is showing themselves up as facile and superficial.

Hmmm.. yes the DM reader gets "digs" if thats all they read,

but so does the "lefty woke Guardian mob" get labelled if thats all they read.....

getting along with a friend politically means knowing the limitations ie how widely you both read and working within them?

and do they get it form newspapers or online because paywalls prevent a lot of reading....

Claremont Sat 07-Jun-25 15:43:32

Grandma70s

Cossy

Mmmmm Never discuss religion or politics or money with close friends!

What a boring friendship that would be.

Indeed. I make the difference between old friends from school days, and those I made later along the way. With the latter, we get on so well because of our 'general philosophy' of life and our common attitude to the most important things in life. Our attitude towards others, strangers, foreigners, those from different backgrounds and cultures, nature, the environment, animals, and access to good education for all, and many other topics. Does not mean we always agree about everything- but I wouldn't wish to be friends with someone who doesn't agree in the main, about the above.

Wyllow3 Sat 07-Jun-25 15:52:30

So much is how we were brought up? My family aways discussed politics and current affairs so I tend to migrate towards people who also do, although my views have shifted of course.
If you come from a family that isnt that interested, its probably very different...but maybe they love yoga...

keepingquiet Sat 07-Jun-25 15:52:57

Grandma70s

Cossy

Mmmmm Never discuss religion or politics or money with close friends!

What a boring friendship that would be.

I agree- I love a good political spat with good friends. I don't know what else we would talk about- knitting patterns or cake recipes? No thanks!

DollyRocker Sat 07-Jun-25 16:36:27

I just say it's all clickbait b*ll*cks probably owned by conglomerates and unless I experience something myself or someone I know experiences something I don't believe a word of what any newspaper says whatever their stripes. I read bits here and there & draw my own conclusions.