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Small children chasing pigeons in the park - harmless or mean?

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Kandinsky Fri 27-Jun-25 06:57:03

What are your thoughts on this?

I let my 2 year old granddaughter chase a few pigeons in the park yesterday. Mentioned it to my daughter ( in all innocence ) when she picked her up ( I look after GD on a Thursday ) but my daughter thinks it’s mean & not sending out the right signals. I was a bit taken aback tbh, it was a small child just running after a couple of pigeons - I wasn’t encouraging it in anyway - I just didn’t stop her.

Was I wrong?

LovesBach Fri 27-Jun-25 09:27:20

No, it isn't right - I have never allowed my children or GC to chase and torment any creature. Where does it end?

David49 Fri 27-Jun-25 09:29:03

When we had a terrier she used to chase Squirrels in the garden, she never got close, it’s wrong to think of wild animals as pets they need their survival instincts or they don’t last long. That aside in some places Pigeons and Seagulls are a real pest, however it’s not acceptable to kick or throw stones at them (unless they are eating my cabbages)

Trouble Fri 27-Jun-25 09:30:44

I am with your daughter here, be kind to all living things and treat them as you would want to be treated whether human or not.

glammagran Fri 27-Jun-25 09:59:06

I chase the vast number of wood pigeons out of the garden constantly - I’m sick of the c**p everywhere. All they do is fly up into the garage roof and smirk at us. Definitely not scared. We have had numerous magpies for the first time this year. Not seen any baby birds like robins or blackbirds this year. Soon the only birds left will be corvids, seagulls and pigeons.

Greenfinch Fri 27-Jun-25 10:10:28

There is a difference between chasing them off for a reason and chasing them for fun as many children are allowed to do. I believe children should learn how to respect all living things. It is a difficult question though as children chase other children for fun (remember the game of “It” ?) but need to learn they cannot chase things that cannot respond. Would you encourage them to chase a dog?

M0nica Fri 27-Jun-25 10:13:03

DGS always ran towards the ducks and geese he saw in the park because he loved them so much and he wanted to get close and watch them and talk to them.

Does that make what he was doing OK because his motives were of the highest and were driven by his love and concern for the birds.

I think the high falutin moral discussion here is a over the top. I doubt the toddler knows or understands the moral angst the adults around him are convulsed by.

Our DGS realised in time that it was better to approach the birds slowly and carefully because then they did not fly away the way they did when he ran towards them.

Athrawes Fri 27-Jun-25 10:30:29

Chasing birds or animals is not right but they do it themselves too don't forget - I was brought up in the country and watch Springwatch and birds and animals being chased by others. It's part of our DNA I suppose

Allira Fri 27-Jun-25 10:40:54

Oh dear, we go out and clap our hands at them!

They pull up the pea plants, they poo everywhere and spend afternoons bonking on our fence. Then the babies look so sweet pecking up the spilt bird seed, your heart softens!

Better keep the dog indoors, he chases them.

Rats with wings according to a friend.

Anyone remember that Tom Lehrer song?

Allira Fri 27-Jun-25 10:42:30

David49

When we had a terrier she used to chase Squirrels in the garden, she never got close, it’s wrong to think of wild animals as pets they need their survival instincts or they don’t last long. That aside in some places Pigeons and Seagulls are a real pest, however it’s not acceptable to kick or throw stones at them (unless they are eating my cabbages)

it’s wrong to think of wild animals as pets they need their survival instincts or they don’t last long.
👏👏👏

NotSpaghetti Fri 27-Jun-25 10:48:35

Yes. This is wrong as far as I'm concerned.
I have always thought so and never let my own children do it.

Treat animals and birds with respect.

NotSpaghetti Fri 27-Jun-25 10:51:57

I admit I'm happy to scare birds off food crops!

Calendargirl Fri 27-Jun-25 10:52:11

Pigeons are feral and a nuisance, but I wouldn’t have allowed my GC to chase them.

If you let them chase pigeons, they would then think it’s ok to chase other birds or animals, i.e. cats, ducks, etc.

No, I think your DD had the right idea.

Caleo Fri 27-Jun-25 10:52:23

Children are not very moral creatures and need to be taught morality. It seems to me to be a good idea to discourage a child in its natural urge to torment animals.

NotSpaghetti Fri 27-Jun-25 10:52:33

But I also try to protect them with barriers etc

Cossy Fri 27-Jun-25 10:56:16

I never let my children chase pigeons, if they tried I just explained it wasn’t nice to chase any wildlife, if chasing pigeons is ok, then is chasing ducks or chickens ok?

I do understand your daughter’s viewpoint.

Caleo Fri 27-Jun-25 10:56:33

PS I don't mean stern lectures or shock/anger. IK mean mild remarks such as " pigeons don't enjoy being chased".

Silverbrooks Fri 27-Jun-25 11:10:32

Yes, of course children chase after things but if that thing is a living creature and being startled and scared by the chase then that is cruel.

The same applies to feeding wild animals food that is made for humans. Feeding ducks with bread is bad for them.

Our parish council has placed signs all around the village pond asking people not to feed them bread (and explaining why) but it doesn’t stop them doing it with their children and grandchildren. I see adults urging children to throw bread into the water even when there are no ducks there.

If they are there, the ducks will eat it and get sick. The pond stinks from the decomposing bread that isn’t eaten and develops blue algae which is toxic to animals which drink the water.

I’m tired of adults teaching children irresponsible behaviour that results in animals suffering.

vintage1950 Fri 27-Jun-25 11:14:47

I agree with your daughter. Chasing animals for fun is wrong, even if it's a long-established tradition.

Mollygo Fri 27-Jun-25 11:40:58

I chase the foxes and the occasional rat that appears at the bottom of our garden.
I chase the magpies off the bird feeders (though not off the lawn).
I chase the pigeons that drop over my clean washing and I actually kill the mosquitoes that try to bite me.

My DGS used to chase the blackbirds that he said were being cruel to the worms.

May as well get it all off my chest now.

Kandinsky Fri 27-Jun-25 11:45:14

Thanks everyone!
Comments noted.

Elowen33 Fri 27-Jun-25 11:46:25

I agree with your daughter, scaring wildlife for fun is wrong, a child may think it is ok to scare all wildlife.

RosieandherMaw Fri 27-Jun-25 11:47:54

I think even 2 year olds - maybe especiallyyear olds- should learn both by example and teaching that chasing or frightening something smaller than yourself is cruel. It goes without saying that chasing anything bigger than yourself (bears for example) is unwise.
But the bottom line is that we do not want to see our little ones grow up as bullies, and chasing pigeons or chickens or small pets is a no-no.

25Avalon Fri 27-Jun-25 11:47:55

There is a photo of me as a small child in Trafalgar Square with pigeons sitting on my arms. The birds were totally unafraid because they were used to people. In a small park they would not be and would fly up out of the way. This may not seem particularly unkind and may even seem amusing and harmless but it’s where it could lead to that dd probably has in mind if we don’t learn to respect wildlife. If you chase chickens it will put them off laying, pregnant cows and sheep can abort or worse. So we need to learn to be kind.

winterwhite Fri 27-Jun-25 12:05:29

A toddler running after a few pigeons seems harmless enough to me. It’s just not the case that the next step will be throwing stones. A pity if the OP feels she can’t take her to the park without saying no all the time.

Granmarderby10 Fri 27-Jun-25 12:09:32

I would have said “that’s not kind” and “they are not hurting you” to the child.