Is intolerance getting worse on GN?

Wyllow3

Rod Stewart released "Maggie May" in 1981. The questioning/critique of misogyny was very well underway by then by both women and me.

Released in 1971, well, that would have been a different matter.

But the whole issue is changed anyway by the fact that"Maggie May" was a sex worker. The young man is paying for what he gets.

I do understand, some young men lack confidence, and turn to a sex worker, possible in 1981 when everyone around seemed to be very active in that way:

However he pays for it, which is bold not shy, and also paying for it just avoids all that Rod Stewart is moaning about.

Rod Stewart first released Maggie May in July 1971.

I remember it well as one of my Grans absolutely loved Rod and this song.

I ve no idea what I said either kittylester but I know it put me back into my shell I d come from for a good while
I think the referendum really divided people up all those years ago as well and brought out the harsh side in some and then Covid didn’t help, all stuck in feeling vulnerable
But I came back and cautiously found my voice

Wish I could claim it as mine own Cossy 🤭

Oreo

The past is a another country, they do things differently there.

I love that phrase!

Oreo

The past is a another country, they do things differently there.

Tonight's the night- is really quite shocking in today's money- about sex with a virgin child.

I remember when Rod was a keen supporter of Enoch Powell- and now seems to think Farage is worth a chance- so not that much changed!

correction, "men" in first paragraph.

Rod Stewart released "Maggie May" in 1981. The questioning/critique of misogyny was very well underway by then by both women and me.

Released in 1971, well, that would have been a different matter.

But the whole issue is changed anyway by the fact that"Maggie May" was a sex worker. The young man is paying for what he gets.

I do understand, some young men lack confidence, and turn to a sex worker, possible in 1981 when everyone around seemed to be very active in that way:

However he pays for it, which is bold not shy, and also paying for it just avoids all that Rod Stewart is moaning about.

If anything Maggie May should be a warning to all impressionable schoolboys to stay away from older women!

Poor lad, seduced by probably his first major crush who appears to just want him for sex , and abandons him when she's not interested. But a major crush in a youngster being what it is he hangs around, even though he knows he's been stupid and should get back to his own life.

Not a huge Rod Stewart fan but I loved Maggie May, and still do.

The past is a another country, they do things differently there.

lafergar

*Tonight’s The Night is grim though*

Urgh, really creepy.

Rod was part of the sound track to my youth. I wished he'd stayed there. I wish I could go back to those days and unknow a lot of what I know now.

Blimey, it's creepy. And too close to home, I was divorced from a man who was coercively abusing me, police and all: this says it all, really, how men like him relate to women.

"Come on angel my hearts on fire

Don't deny your man's desire

You'd be a fool to stop this tide

Spread your wings

^ and let me come inside^,

'cause
....
Tonight's the night
It's gonna be alright
'Cause I love you girl
Ain't nobody gonna stop us now
^Don't say a word my virgin child
Just let your inhibitions run wild
The secret is about to unfold
Upstairs before the night's too old^

all there, isnt it.

(yes, I have recovered, 3 years on, living happily alone)

so I guess you might say I'm not a fan.

and to those that say, what's a song got to do with politics?

My answer is "the personal IS political" - otherwise we wouldn't have political threads on abuse of women and children

I'm giving up mow - command should have been comma- beeping auto whatsits!

Doodledog

Maggie May was a Liverpool prostitute who features in other songs. She steals a sailor’s money in some and gets him transported to Botany Bay in others.

Tonight’s The Night is grim though.

Ah, that answers it, thank you.

LizzieDrip

Nevertheless Wyllow the next lines are:

“But that don’t worry me none,
In my eyes, you’re everything”

🤣🤣🤣

Indeed, what a winger. Poor little boy led astray by Older Woman (needy, yes, but fgs) she took him away from school

(I suspect it happened to him so he's having a good moan at her expense very publicly. Of course he could claim "it happened to a friend"

Allira Every Breath is definitely creepy.

I remember the furore last Christmas about Baby it’s Cold Outside.

Phew, what a relief!

For the avoidance of doubt- I hope allira knows I'm joking!! I'm sure she does but......

GrannyGravy13

lafergar

Tonight’s The Night is grim though

Urgh, really creepy.

Rod was part of the sound track to my youth. I wished he'd stayed there. I wish I could go back to those days and unknow a lot of what I know now.

Tonight’s the Night is rather innocent compared to the rappers and drill artists lyrics of today, both female and male.

The creepiest song is Police and Every Breath You Take
Eeurgh!

kittylester

Honestly, they are pop songs!

Allira what I'm reading? I missed a command, sorry. Are you the grammar police? 🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭

😁

I'm getting all confused now!

Galaxy

A lot of entertainment from even 10 - 20 years ago can seem very odd when viewed through today's lens. There are many songs which have very sexist/creepy lyrics (The Police spring to mind) . But even if you watch classic corrie or emmerdale, there are some really unpleasant storylines around relationships between much older men and teenage girls which wouldn't be written today.

Peggy's one-time love interest in Eastenders was 10 years younger than her.

Honestly, they are pop songs!

Allira what I'm reading? I missed a command, sorry. Are you the grammar police? 🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭

A lot of entertainment from even 10 - 20 years ago can seem very odd when viewed through today's lens. There are many songs which have very sexist/creepy lyrics (The Police spring to mind) . But even if you watch classic corrie or emmerdale, there are some really unpleasant storylines around relationships between much older men and teenage girls which wouldn't be written today.

lafergar

*Tonight’s The Night is grim though*

Urgh, really creepy.

Rod was part of the sound track to my youth. I wished he'd stayed there. I wish I could go back to those days and unknow a lot of what I know now.

Yes, but if Rod had stayed there and you had too, he'd still be there!

As it is, we didn't hear much about him, until Glastonbury.

I must admit to never really listening to the words of many songs.

0°0° my schooling for today, thanks GrannyGravy

lafergar

*Tonight’s The Night is grim though*

Urgh, really creepy.

Rod was part of the sound track to my youth. I wished he'd stayed there. I wish I could go back to those days and unknow a lot of what I know now.

Tonight’s the Night is rather innocent compared to the rappers and drill artists lyrics of today, both female and male.

kittylester

Best not ask Allira

Ask me what?

¿Qué? I know nothing!