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Is intolerance getting worse on GN?

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kittylester Sun 29-Jun-25 18:35:51

I am horrified to have been told, in the last couple of days, that Rod Stewart's music should not be listened to because he supports reform and to stop watching Eastenders and read a library book.

Well, I watched Rod Stewart and am still an SDP supporter - if they only still existed!

And, the library in our village is a very successfully run community library which i helped transition from Council control -between watching episodes of Eastenders.

For goodness sake - get a grip some of you!

kittylester Tue 01-Jul-25 12:04:36

Best not ask Allira blush

lafergar Tue 01-Jul-25 12:04:13

Tonight’s The Night is grim though

Urgh, really creepy.

Rod was part of the sound track to my youth. I wished he'd stayed there. I wish I could go back to those days and unknow a lot of what I know now.

Claremont Tue 01-Jul-25 12:00:59

There seems to be another new 'technique' which is ostracisation. Quite obvious.

Claremont Tue 01-Jul-25 12:00:04

merlotgran

MayBee70

I think people are being unfair to gransnet HQ. I honestly don’t think that they ban people because of reported grievances, either personal or political but because of an overview of an individuals posts over a long period of time that they feel put the forum into disrepute.

But that brings us back to the ‘who is right?’ argument.

FGT was a supporter of Reform and Donald Trump. I gather most of us are not.

Does that make her disreputable?

Of course not, per se. No-one has coe back about clarification of the post which caused a ban. Normally, a post is given a warning. So it must have been pretty serious. And probaby nothing to do with her political orientation as such- but must have contained something quite serious, perhaps an obviously racist comment linked to poltcal views.

This comment by woodenspoon ''Personally, I think it’s always the same few who do this. If you disagree with their leftie dogma they press that report button. It gives them power you see, they crave it. Sad in my opinion. '', sets a very negative tone. As many of us who are to the left of centre, which does not make us 'leftie' have experienced exactly the opposite.

Allira Tue 01-Jul-25 11:51:46

Doodledog

*Why, any particular reason I wonder?*
It reminds me of drunken karaoke singers grin.

Well, he said it was the only track he ever recorded without having a drink beforehand 😁

Perhaps he should have had a tot of Pusser's rum first!

GrannyGravy13 Tue 01-Jul-25 11:48:46

MaizieD have a play with your 0 key, hopefully it will have a similar solution.

MaizieD Tue 01-Jul-25 11:42:46

Many thanks for all the superscript 'o' instructions. flowers

But I'm on a laptop ATM because I prefer typing with a proper keyboard (I make far more mistakes on my Ipad) grin

Perhaps I should ask Mr Google

GrannyGravy13 Tue 01-Jul-25 11:31:36

Doodledog

*Why, any particular reason I wonder?*
It reminds me of drunken karaoke singers grin.

Oh dear, my one and only attempt at Karaoke with a very dear friend - I was six months pregnant, totally sober (she wasn’t) and we sang Like a Virgin by Madonna 🤷‍♀️

Pantglas2 Tue 01-Jul-25 11:29:41

“It is a bit like one of my 'trigger' phrases, which is 'Oh, I don't have time for that' said about something someone doesn't want to do. Extra points go to those who suggest I do it for them” Doodledog

That last sentence had me laughing as on Sunday I was inundated with folks wanting my old matching microwave, toaster and bread bin. All, apart from one, wanted me to deliver…these were items were free by the way but collection necessary! Some people eh?

Doodledog Tue 01-Jul-25 11:24:41

Why, any particular reason I wonder?
It reminds me of drunken karaoke singers grin.

Allira Tue 01-Jul-25 11:23:35

It's a delightfully cool and slightly breezy 18 degrees (how do you get the superscript 'o' ?) here in Durham this morning.

I'm on a tablet (several, but I mean a Samsung tablet in this instance)

If I hold down the nought 0 the degree sign comes up as a choice. ⁰

It's only 23⁰C here at the moment.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 01-Jul-25 11:22:56

MaizieD

^Perhaps people have too much time in their hands?^

Oh dear, GG13. That sounds dangerously akin to 'get a life' (though I know you didn't mean it pejoratively).

It's a delightfully cool and slightly breezy 18 degrees (how do you get the superscript 'o' ?) here in Durham this morning.

On my new iPad, I push the numbers key, then hold down the 0 and the little ° appears above it.

On the iPhone I just hold down the 0 and it appears on the left.

I really didn’t mean get a life I think I should go back to reading Jilly Cooper on my kindle (please don’t judge my trashy taste in literature at the moment, I am rereading the Rutshire Chronicles from the beginning, and thoroughly enjoying them)

Allira Tue 01-Jul-25 11:20:09

Doodledog

Rod has some good songs, I agree. I hate Sailing though grin.

Why, any particular reason I wonder?

A friend was on the Ark Royal, trying to organise the men when the crew recorded it.

In 1987 “Sailing” was reissued as a charity single after the Herald of Free Enterprise disaster off the Flemish port of Zeebrugge, becoming a number 24 hit in Belgium’s Flemish Region a number 41 chart re-entry in the UK and a number 30 hit in Ireland.

It was also used as the theme tune to the BBC series Sailor.

Doodledog Tue 01-Jul-25 11:19:11

MaizieD

^Perhaps people have too much time in their hands?^

Oh dear, GG13. That sounds dangerously akin to 'get a life' (though I know you didn't mean it pejoratively).

It's a delightfully cool and slightly breezy 18 degrees (how do you get the superscript 'o' ?) here in Durham this morning.

It is a bit like one of my 'trigger' phrases, which is 'Oh, I don't have time for that' said about something someone doesn't want to do. Extra points go to those who suggest I do it for them grin. We all have 24 hours in each day - it's how we prioritise things (outside of genuinely non-negotiable responsibilities) that counts.

If you can watch TV, you could learn to knit. Fine if you don't want to, but don't tell me you don't have time - you do.

NB For avoidance of doubt, 'you' = generic in this example grin

I'm in the Lake District today, and it's damp and muggy. I have a fan on indoors, but there is quite a breeze outside and it's no more than warmish.

MaizieD Tue 01-Jul-25 11:12:35

Perhaps people have too much time in their hands?

Oh dear, GG13. That sounds dangerously akin to 'get a life' (though I know you didn't mean it pejoratively).

It's a delightfully cool and slightly breezy 18 degrees (how do you get the superscript 'o' ?) here in Durham this morning.

Allira Tue 01-Jul-25 11:12:29

lafergar

GrannyGravy13

Whitewavemark2

😄

Yes.

He lived next door to our very good friends, then sold his house to a footballer.

My son lived next door to Nigerian Princes. Ar least they said they were.

A girl at college said she was a Nigerian Princess. Whether or not she was, she was great fun.

Allira Tue 01-Jul-25 11:11:04

theworriedwell

Oreo

Luckily no one ever complained about the comments on Boris and his sartorial mishaps.wink

I didn't think he made sartorial mishaps, I've always thought that was his deliberate style.

Surely not 😁

I think he tried.

Allira Tue 01-Jul-25 11:09:56

kittylester

I just don't understand why people can't just move on.

Do they not move on in real life, argue incessantly with other people, bear grudges or think 'each to their own'.

Perhaps people have too much time in their hands?
Well, I have been spending too much time wondering if kittylester is reading the 'right' kind of books now, having taken the advice to stop watching Eastenders 😀

There are books and then there are the right kind of books. It's important to know the difference.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 01-Jul-25 11:01:05

kittylester

I just don't understand why people can't just move on.

Do they not move on in real life, argue incessantly with other people, bear grudges or think 'each to their own'.

Life is far too short to hold a grudge on an anonymous forum, with someone you do not know in real life

Perhaps people have too much time in their hands?

(Like me today, finished the ironing and procrastinating on what to do next when it’s 28° in the shade due to reach 33°)

kittylester Tue 01-Jul-25 10:55:50

I just don't understand why people can't just move on.

Do they not move on in real life, argue incessantly with other people, bear grudges or think 'each to their own'.

Mollygo Tue 01-Jul-25 10:47:28

Dickens, leaving the post with a note from GNHQ saying
This post has already been reported.
Then others can make up their own minds about how awful or not awful it was.

Dickens Tue 01-Jul-25 10:37:02

merlotgran

I think it’s awful when people are ‘silenced’ by the report brigade. They are never exposed and the rest of us are helpless. We can protest as much as we like but there’s only been one reinstated member (as far as I know) since I joined 11 years ago.

The crazy thing is that whenever a member is banished, and it’s usually about politics, many of us are not even supporters of that person’s views but we care about the individual because it’s somebody we have got to know and value.

We’re a community and we have a right to support each other.

The crazy thing is that whenever a member is banished, and it’s usually about politics, many of us are not even supporters of that person’s views but we care about the individual because it’s somebody we have got to know and value.

Gosh, this is so true.

The two people I know who have been 'banished' at some point were both GNetters whose political views were definitely not aligned with mine, yet I felt quite annoyed by their being suspended / banned or whatever.

I know there are lines that we should not cross, but isn't it the case that sometimes, what people say, is open to interpretation? Also, a strongly held belief can be challenging to those who don't hold it, or don't like the way it's expressed - but, on politics forums, I think we have to accept that it's going to be 'heated' - I mean, you've only got to watch some PMQs in the House... surely a lot of comments made there would equally cause trouble here on GN?

I'm in the camp that believes that comments should be left to stand however troublesome - unless they actually break the Law.

theworriedwell Tue 01-Jul-25 10:31:24

Oreo

Luckily no one ever complained about the comments on Boris and his sartorial mishaps.wink

I didn't think he made sartorial mishaps, I've always thought that was his deliberate style.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 01-Jul-25 10:10:11

Wyllow3

I took a dislike to Rod when his song came out, "Maggie May". There we all were bopping at a disco and it was only later I felt a profound unease. The song is of a young man who falls for an older women and he has a big offensive moan about her

read the lyrics, its as misogynist as any song can be

www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=lyrics+maggie+May&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

"You led me away from home
Just to save you from being alone
You stole my heart and that's what really hurts
The morning sun when it's in your face
Really shows your age"

Later events therefore didn't come as a surprise.

It maybe, but still one of my all time favourites of his along with Handbags and Gladrags.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 01-Jul-25 10:08:58

lafergar

GrannyGravy13

Whitewavemark2

😄

Yes.

He lived next door to our very good friends, then sold his house to a footballer.

My son lived next door to Nigerian Princes. Ar least they said they were.

The difference being, we would talk to Rod Stewart and his wife at the time (Rachel Hunter, mouth like a sewer) so knew them to be who they were.

It is also not unusual for him to drop into our local pub for a pint on occasions.